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A few Mozilla 1.5 questions.

         

TryAgain

11:44 pm on Jan 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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1) Where does Mozilla 1.5 store cookies?

2) Where is the cache?

In preferences, I set the cache directory to "Temporary Internet Files", same one IE was using. It worked a couple of days, now this directory just stays empty. Beats me what caused this.

I looked in "Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\Default\****.slt\Cache" but it was empty as well. So where the h*** is it?

3) When I right-click an image and select "Save Image As...", why does it download the image all over again? It's right there on the screen! (I noticed this with Nasa's 12MB panorama image.)

#3 Makes me think I am not caching anything at all anymore, how can this be?

Also, there must be cookies lingering somehere as I got logged on automatically here after rebooting.

Reflection

12:10 am on Jan 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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2) Where is the cache?

Edit> Preferences > Advanced > Cache will give you the info you need. You may need to double click on advanced.

As for cookies:

Tools > Cookie Manager > Manage Stored Cookies

or

Edit > Preferences > Privacy & Security > Cookies.

Hope that helps/you didnt already know that :)

#3) Does it acutally say you are downloading the entire image? If your cache is working it will say that the image is 1k in the download manager.

TryAgain

12:26 am on Jan 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Reflection,

2) As I said, in edit, preferences, advanced, I have set the cache directory to "Temporary Internet Files", but currently it remains empty. So where is it?

1) As for the cookie manager, thx for the suggestion but I knew about that. When I go there I see a lot of cookies listed. What I want to know is where exactly on my hard drive are these cookies stored.

3) On closer inspection, it does seem like Mozilla retrieves the image from cache when saving from some webpage. So no problem there. Sorry bout that, it must have given the impression because the Nasa image was so big. (Had the progress bar pop up instead of the download manager.)
(But still I cannot find any cache on my HD.)

Reflection

6:22 pm on Jan 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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When I go there I see a lot of cookies listed

Try searching your HD for one of those cookies.

What OS are you running?

TryAgain

11:43 pm on Jan 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>Try searching your HD for one of those cookies.

I tried that but no dice, nothing found.

There is a file called cookies.txt in the "\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\Default\***.slt" folder. Is that how Mozilla stores cookies or is this just a copy for the sake of the cookie manager? I wish Mozilla would give clear information on this.

Reflection

12:07 am on Jan 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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There are two files cookies.txt and cookperm.txt

Thats how your cookies are stored.

From cookies.txt file:

" This is a generated file! Do not edit.
# To delete cookies, use the Cookie Manager."

Hester

1:17 am on Jan 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Why on earth are you using the same cache as IE6? The two programs do not use the same caching method. IE6 caches files with their original filenames, Mozilla encodes everything.

If you check the Mozilla Preferences (Edit menu - bottom option) then open up the Advanced list and click on Cache, this tells you exactly where the cache is kept - make sure it is completely separate from IE6.

If you wish to use a shredding program to delete your cache contents, just alter it for Mozilla or IE6 as required. 'Cache & Cookie Washer', although meant for IE, can also bleach files in the Mozilla cache.

TryAgain

3:20 am on Jan 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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There are two files cookies.txt and cookperm.txt
Thats how your cookies are stored.
From cookies.txt file:
" This is a generated file! Do not edit.
# To delete cookies, use the Cookie Manager."

Ok, deleting these cookie text files seems to at least get rid of the automatic log-on's.

(I'm not sure if cookies are not kept in cache or somewhere else and these text files are generated based on those cookies, it does say: "this is a generated file!")

TryAgain

3:25 am on Jan 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Why on earth are you using the same cache as IE6?

I use a script to delete the contents of "Temporary Internet Files" at startup. I figured to catch both at the same time. It works too.

I do this to keep my HD clean from cookies and internet junk.


The two programs do not use the same caching method. IE6 caches files with their original filenames, Mozilla encodes everything.

The different method of caching has nothing to do with it. You can set the cache folder of Mozilla to any folder you like.
The reason the cache did not show up was that "Temporary Internet Files" is a special kind of folder and Windows hides subfolders from view in this folder.
(If you create a folder "C:\MozillaCache", Mozilla will put the cache in "C:\MozillaCache\Cache". You can't see this subfolder if it's in "Temporary Internet Files" however.)


If you check the Mozilla Preferences (Edit menu - bottom option) then open up the Advanced list and click on Cache, this tells you exactly where the cache is kept

I knew about this. How else would I have been able to set the cache folder of Mozilla to a different one?


- make sure it is completely separate from IE6.

As I said, I don't think this matters at all. The only problem is, you won't see the subfolder Mozilla creates if you use "Temporary Internet Files" as destination because Windows hides it in there.

Anyway, my problem was that I couldn't find my cache and that's solved, so thx for the replies. :)


IE6 caches files with their original filenames, Mozilla encodes everything.

What the...? Why? I want to see the original files! How else am I gonna rip somebody elses html?
No, this will not do at all.

But seriously, I don't suppose there is a way to get to the original files?
And why do they encode everything?

robert adams

6:10 am on Jan 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I don't know what is meant by encoding everything. Mozilla just gives everything a new file name like 0F4C1A05d01

You can open these in your browser or graphic program depending on what they are.

BTW, why are you worried about cookies? They don't harm your system and don't send any info about you anywhere. they don't contain virus or spayware, they just make it easy for you to get logged on to certain websites and other convient things.

luck,
robert

Farix

1:23 pm on Jan 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The recent versions of ZoneAlarm Pro has a feature that can clear out all cookies for both Netscape/Mozilla and IE except for those you put on an exception list. It will also clear the cashe, history, AutoComplete forums and passwords and etc. You can also set it to clean every day, every other day or, like me, every 7 days.

TryAgain

10:12 pm on Jan 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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BTW, why are you worried about cookies?

I don't want my idiot brother to start my computer and get logged on all over the place under my accounts. *

I don't like being tracked by cookies, though I'm not losing any sleep over this.

In general: I want to know what kind of stuff gets dumped on my hard drive and where and certainly want to be able to remove it automatically as opposed to doing it manually every time I use a browser.

*j/k bro ;-)

robert adams

10:36 pm on Jan 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The recent versions of ZoneAlarm Pro has a feature that can clear out all cookies for both Netscape/Mozilla and IE except for those you put on an exception list. It will also clear the cashe, history, AutoComplete forums and passwords and etc. You can also set it to clean every day, every other day or, like me, every 7 days.

windows can be set to do most of this on a regular basis, IE and Mozilla can be set to accept all cookies or just some cookies, to delete them on a regular basis, etc.
Bottom line is you don't need all these extra things to do these basic windows type maintenance things, besides the fact that most of the extra programs you run just add more junk that is hard to get rid of.

robert adams

10:41 pm on Jan 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I don't want my idiot brother to start my computer and get logged on all over the place under my accounts. *

I don't like being tracked by cookies, though I'm not losing any sleep over this.

In general: I want to know what kind of stuff gets dumped on my hard drive and where and certainly want to be able to remove it automatically as opposed to doing it manually every time I use a browser.


I can agree with all of that, except the part about being tracked with cookies. I don't think you are really being "tracked" with cookies. They are mainly for things like usernames at forums or other sites so the site can know you when you return. They also keep track of what ads you have seen so that the ad companies can make decisions about what to show you.(I don't like that part myself)

If you don't set your browser and/or the sites to automatically log you in, then your brother wont' be able to do it without your passwords.

here's my rant, how about yours,

luck,
robert

Reflection

12:05 am on Jan 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Since your using Mozilla why dont you take advantage of the cookie manager and profile manager?

TryAgain

1:52 am on Jan 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I know there are options in windows and browsers to control the handling of cookies, still you are going to have to use cookies since a lot of sites rely on them, like here to get logged in. (And not all sites have the option to disable automatic log on.) I'm not that worried about them, I just like to keep a clean ship and delete cache and cookies and preferably everything else that get's dumped on my hard drive that I don't really need. I know this is virtually impossible since practically every program keeps logs, histories etc and it's impossible to keep track of what gets installed where, but I try to keep this stuff to a minimum, that's all. And I like to know what is being done to my HD, after all, it's my computer.

I don't think you are really being "tracked" with cookies.

I dunno, as far as I know, cookies are one of the main tools used to track users on the internet.

Since your using Mozilla why dont you take advantage of the cookie manager and profile manager?

Just like to do it with one clean sweep for all browsers automatically instead of having to do it manually everytime I use a browser, it's a lot simpler that way and I'm sure I've not forgotten something somewhere. Can I control my own computer, is that too much to ask?

I don't know what is meant by encoding everything. Mozilla just gives everything a new file name like 0F4C1A05d01
You can open these in your browser or graphic program depending on what they are.

I tried a few files but could not open them with anything.
Anyway, even if you manage to open them with some application, the fact that you don't know what is stored where makes this totally unworkable.

Eventhough I hardly ever look at the cache, what is the benefit of "encoding" it this way anyway? Why can't they just do it the way IE does it.

robert adams

3:10 am on Jan 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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because they are not IE . You can setup all kinds of things on your computer to do what you want. You can create a maintenance program to run whenever you want it to. It can clear all those files for you and whatever else you want it to do.. Maintenance Wizard and Task Scheduler in Windows.

I try to keep my machine lean and mean myself, I just don't worry too much about cookies. I agree with you on just about every thing else.

luck,
robert