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michaelbs

8:58 pm on Dec 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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[silicon.com...]

A pretty sad and costly announcement for pop up advertisers but a fantastic victory for the regular web surfer!

With it looking pretty grim for advertisers, what will be the next advertising medium to outperform banners 10 to 1?

Mike

RammsteinNicCage

9:06 pm on Dec 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ads cluttering up and uglifying websites instead of popping up?

Jennifer

jbinbpt

9:20 pm on Dec 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't personally, but I imagine quite a few of us use popups for legit uses.

jb

michaelbs

9:20 pm on Dec 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone know when the latest version of IE is coming out?

Trying to calculate if I'll be a millionaire before it does! 8-)

amznVibe

9:24 pm on Dec 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

dlab

1:09 am on Dec 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If there are too many banners on a site, I have heard of a small app called eDexter which updates your HOSTS file and runs a small webserver on your system.. Your HOSTS file is a list of host names and ip addresses, so if you opened up you hosts file, added something like


127.0.0.1 www.webmasterworld.com

whenever you went to www.webmasterworld.com it would ignore looking up the website in a DNS server and bounce back to you.. So if a website tries to load an ad from ads.doubleclick.net and that record was in your HOSTS file, it would try to grab the ad from 127.0.0.1/adsbin?cid=*****&adid=*****, and eDexter would replace the image with a blank gif, so instead of an ad loading, it would popup a blank GIF or JPG, depending on what the page is looking for..

RammsteinNicCage

1:26 am on Dec 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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How does the website get paid for then? I'm assuming that by the ad not displaying, the webmaster doesn't get paid for it, right?

Jennifer

korkus2000

2:22 pm on Dec 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Webmasters must find a new revenue source that does not upset users. We need to stop worrying about out dated technics and how well they worked, and look for a new way to pay for your sites.

I know that adsense out performs any popup ads for me. When adsense blockers proliferate then its time to find something else. Staying flexible and ontop of the game will keep your site making money.

asquithea

7:34 pm on Dec 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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As a user, I'd like to see more relevant, less intrusive advertisements. In practical terms, that means text ads (regardless of relevance) or static image ads (only if they're on topic).

If I dislike an advert (hint: animated, audible, pop-up, or obstructively large ads), it gets blocked, and that means that I probably won't see or download any advertising content on your site -- which means it's in your interests to keep things simple. If there's an annoying advert that I can't circumvent, I quit using your site -- chances are that there are more sites like it that aren't as irritating.

Webmasters have to understand that people like me aren't philosophically opposed to viewing adverts, even when the advert isn't directly useful. For example, I read the adverts for new sports or luxury cars in the Saturday colour supplement, even though I'd never buy one. I click on interesting looking Flash ads occasionally, but most are animated when idle, which means they get blocked without a second thought -- I don't want something jiggling to get my attention when I'm trying to read the content -- even if it's relevant.

In my opinion, the best ads (and the ones that attract my attention) are small text links that lead me where I might need to go. Microsoft has 'popular MSN topics' on the Hotmail login page, and many stories (such as those on Slashdot) have external links to related documents and stories. In a similar model, if I'm reading a review of a book, I'll want a handy link that takes me to an online store, and if I'm in such a store I'll want links that allow me to compare prices -- if your site is cheapest, you might get the sale, and if it isn't you might get a commission for the recommendation. Or possibly both if I know and trust your site. Always remember that if I visit your site I'm looking for information, not a song-and-dance routine. If you know of a site offering more information than you've got available, say so -- don't be afraid to lead me away, because if the pointer you gave me is useful I will return again -- information portals are invaluable to me.

Okay, enough stuff that probably goes against the grain. But I've told you as a user what I'm looking for, and it's sites that meet my needs that get my business.

I use the Adblock extension [adblock.mozdev.org] (developmental build) with Firebird [mozilla.org], with unrequested pop-ups blocked.

R1chard

1:49 pm on Dec 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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As well as blocking all popups viw the options menu, I use Firebird's right-click menu "Block Images from this Server".

bondjamesbond

3:06 pm on Dec 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'd agree with asquithea. Advertisers are just wasting their time with me as I automatically have banners, pop-ups and other annoying features blocked by Firebird (a great browser!). Text links are the way to go. I think advertising works the best when it is woven into the content. A banner at the top of the page doesn't work, where a simple text link works wonders.

eWhisper

3:55 pm on Dec 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Advertisers are just wasting their time with me as I automatically have banners, pop-ups and other annoying features blocked

I do block pop ups, flash and animated ads. However, advertising pays for many good websites. The reason many have not gone to a paid subscription is that they can serve banner ads, make enough money on those to cover hosting and their time, without having to toss in text link reviews everywhere.

If everyone where to switch to blocking all banner ads, expect to start paying for a lot more content. I agree that ads should be tastfully added to a page, which many don't do, but blocking all banners won't solve problems in the long run, but instead create more.

Reflect

3:58 pm on Dec 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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But would this cover DHTML popups? I thought they were a totaly different beast.

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Brian

TheDoctor

8:33 pm on Dec 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Jakob Neilsen's article on web adverts, from April 2003 [useit.com] is perhaps a starting point for thinking about the future.