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Kenji

8:37 am on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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i would like to ask if anybody is experiencing any problem regarding receiving of emails from yahoo accts?

since may i noticed that i cannot receive any emails coming from yahoo thru my hotmail acct.

thanks

korkus2000

3:29 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Welcome to WebmasterWorld Kenji,

Yahoo and hotmail for that matter are exploited heavily for spammers. They are quite anonymous so spammers will use these accounts for from addresses. They may not have a yahoo account, but they offer better cover. I know that some places filter these accounts, and you might have that problem. To much spam from the yahoo addresses and system admins may cut them off.

tedster

4:52 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes, I'm running into this kind of problem occasionally, and not just with Yahoo/MSN.

Aggressive filtering to limit spam at the level of the ISP is becoming a problem lately...the major service providers have discovered that the public hates spam email and their spam filtering has become an important marketing point. Even some small hosts have begun to install a degree filtering on their mail servers.

To a degree, I sympathize with the effort. But just one "false positive" can wreak havoc on legitimate communications. This is not a long term solution to spam.

Learning Curve

6:17 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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This doesn't apply to your specific situation but it's typical.

In March Yahoo! Mail installed a new spam filter. They created a new Bulk Mail folder for every e-mail account where Yahoo puts the suspected spam.

If you find a legitimate e-mail in the Bulk folder you just click "This is not spam" or something similar and you're set.

The problem is people don't know about the Bulk folder. Yesterday, a client found several old business e-mails in his Bulk folder. Boy, that cost me some real money.

cornwall

6:27 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Really business accounts should not be using Hotmail or Yahoo accounts for all sorts of reasons

If you are in business then get a regular email account with your ISP. You are then in a position to use your own choice of filters/software to attack spam

>> But just one "false positive" can wreak havoc on legitimate >>communications. This is not a long term solution to spam

Agree with that. Personally I use CloudMark to syphon off spam into a spam folder on my browser. I am then left with the "real" emails to read, and can quickly scan my Spam Folder each day for false positives.

Learning Curve

6:50 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Really business accounts should not be using Hotmail or Yahoo accounts for all sorts of reasons

The reality is that many independent sales people do.

Kenji

6:33 am on May 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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thanks for the welcome....

the thing is its not even showing up in my bulk mail folder or my junk mail folder....

so how can they filter it if it doesnt reaches my email?

i regularly check my bulk and junk mail folder but still i cant find those corporate emails.....

ive checked with the sender and the email that was on the address was correct.

is it just the transmitting of data or something?

what do u guys think?

thanks again.....

rainborick

3:11 pm on May 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Your problems could be caused by another aspect of Yahoo!'s anti-spam system. In much the same way as a previous poster mentioned, Yahoo! Mail users can mark messages received in their regular mailbox as being SPAM. This information gets forwarded to Yahoo!'s system where they presumably use it as the basis for filtering at some level - either system-wide or just for the submitting user. So, if your Yahoo! Mail account has their anti-SPAM system enabled, you can get false positives causing you to miss valid messages as Tedster explained.

There's also a more onerous possibility. The host for the mail server that's sending you the missing EMails could be on a list of SPAMmers that are published by anti-SPAM services. ISP's and mail hosting systems subscribe to these lists and automatically bounce all EMails originating from the banned domains. The service that hosts my sites has been running into this on and off for the past couple of years. All it takes is some rookie webmaster installs an old vulnerable copy of Matt's FormMail.pl script, a malicious SPAMmer hijacks the script for a couple of days and blasts the Net with millions of EMails and BAM! - our hosting company is suddenly on a banned list and all of the sites hosted by this company are unable to send EMails to certain domains who subscribe to this service. Its no fun for anybody involved.
I hope it hasn't happened to you.