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Comic Sans

Is this a good font to use?

         

Small Website Guy

5:34 am on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I ask the question not from a design perspective (I think it's the pefect font for headlines on my website), but from a technical perspective. Is this font available on the overwhelming majority of computers? (I suppose I can live without people using Unix being able to fully appreciate my design.) Is Comic Sans only on Microsoft computers, or will Mac users also have it?

rogerd

5:39 am on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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About a year ago someone posted some stats that showed font installation rates. I think that Comic Sans was really quite high, even higher than some "common" fonts.

coconutz

6:00 am on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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A previous discussion What is the most common fonts installed? [webmasterworld.com]

Common fonts on Windows systems [codestyle.org] to 22 February 2003

92.95% Arial Black
92.38% Comic Sans MS
91.96% Impact
91.68% Verdana
91.54% Arial
91.40% Courier New
90.83% Tahoma

Common fonts on Mac systems [codestyle.org] to 22 February 2003

97.18% Monaco
95.77% Helvetica
94.37% Verdana
93.66% Courier
92.96% Geneva
92.39% Arial Black
92.25% Arial
91.55% Comic Sans MS

Small Website Guy

2:01 pm on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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coconutz,

Thank you very much for posting that. I guess I should have found that post by using the search function.

I went to codestyle.org and looked at the list, but it didn't seem quite kosher. The list is telling us that more Windows computers have Comic Sans and Impact than have Arial and Times New Roman.

Arial and Times New Roman where the standard fonts that have come free with every version of Windows since 3.1.(Remember Windows 3.1? I do.) So clearly there has to be something wrong if they are telling us that 21.6% of Windows computers don't have Times New Roman.

So I looked more carefully at the codestyle.org methodology, and discovered that the installed font list is based simply on a poll on their website that anyone can fill out. Which means the results aren't too reliable, because the person browsing the codestyle.org website isn't the typical web user.

And the reason why Times New Roman comes up so low is because the poll asks you to compare the default font to a bunch of other fonts and check the checkbox if it is different. Since most people have Times New Roman set as the default, I guess they don't see a difference between the default font and Times New Roman and don't check the box.

The more a font is different from Times New Roman, the more likely it is to get checked. Arial Black and Comic Sans look obviously different from Times New Roman. The difference between Times New Roman and Garamond is a lot more subtle, and many might not notice.

Microsoft lists the core fonts they recommend for the web that are supposedly on everyone's computer: Recommended fonts [microsoft.com]. I guess we can just count on those fonts always being there, although Microsoft warns that some people might delete fonts from their system. (Why would anyone want to delete Comic Sans?)

According to codesyle, these Microsoft core fonts seem just as prevalent on Mac computers. I guess Apple is nice enough to include them so as not to ruin their users' web browing experience.

I was reading a book yesterday on Web Typography, and the author recommends only using Times New Roman, Georgia, Verdana, Arial, and Courier New because she said other fonts might not be installed. I guess she is wrong, according to Microsoft, Impact, Comic Sans, Trebuchet, and Webdings are also on everyone's computer.

grahamstewart

11:31 pm on Mar 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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One thing to bear in mind is that you can always provide a fall-back font using CSS, with a rule like..


h1 {
font-family: "Comic Sans", Arial, sans-serif;
}

so if people don't have Comic Sans your site will still be readable.