(X)HTML - Code or not?

[Made In Sheffield]

If you were writing about writing (X)HTML would you call it coding or not?

I would but someone I talked to wouldn't, so I just want to get a general consensus. He would say "writing" or "authoring".

And also what noun would you use to refer to the "code"?

Thanks
Nigel

[MWpro]

Writing html (or xhtml) seems about right.

Coding usually refers to making programs in other programming lanugages or writing actual scripts for web pages.

[tedster]

I hear HTML authors being called "coders" all the time. Yes, it's not a purist's use of the word, but the language is changing.

I think this is a good change, if it helps people to understand that there is such a thing as valid HTML and CSS as opposed to "street HTML". Having done some (ahem) REAL coding in my life before the web, I was a bit confused about the apparent looseness of HTML when I first began learning it. It was a few years before I grokked what the W3C was up to.

[Made In Sheffield]

What about the noun?

Would you say:

Come and take a look at my XHTML code.

or

Come and take a look at my XHTML document.

or

something else.

Cheers,
Nigel

[DrDoc]

Dictionary:

code
1. a systematized body of laws
2. a set of principles, as of ethics
3. a set of signals for sending messages
4. a system of symbols for secret writing, etc.
coding
to put into code

Thesaurus:

code
codex, method, digest (see also SYSTEM)

[tedster]

Come and take a look at my XHTML code.

That communcates clearly, for me. I'm being asked to look at the actual source.

Come and take a look at my XHTML document.

I probably would expect to see it already rendered by the browser.

[Made In Sheffield]

Thanks all for your comments.

[amoore]

I would call it XHTML. It's a noun as far as I know.
Try this out: "Could you take a look at this HTML with me for a moment?"

[Made In Sheffield]

I agree but in the context of an article/book I use XHTML to refer to the language as a whole so I need some way of differentiating talking about the language and some code? written in XHTML.

[stlouislouis]

How about calling the (X)HTML mark up?

Kind of hard to argue that's not appropriate considering
what (X)HTML stands for.

[ggrot]

I would call it code. HTML is a Language after all. And the stuff inside is a bunch of computer commands (ie: they are not meant for a human to read in reality). Finally, the whole thing is put into use by an interpreter.

The line is blurry, because if you consider HTML as a file format created by software(WYsIWYG editors) for software(browsers), then it is the same as a document (created by word, viewed by openoffice). But if you are talking from the developer's standpoint, generally you write the HTML yourself, so you can refer to it as code.

[ggrot]

Either way, the meaning is conveyed well.