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I don't think you can even run older versions of Explorer on computers that have the newer browser because it is integrated into Windows. Does anyone know of some way I can get an older version of Explorer special viewer or something? I really need to see what they are seeing and be able to test any corrections and I don't want to remove a newer version of IE to put on an older version, assuming that is even possible.
Secondary question is why is this messed up in IE 6.0 and fine everywhere else. However another factor is that I had these sites set up on my personal server as I was building them which runs Linux and PHP 4.0 Both clients said the sites were fine then, but when I moved them to their own server then this problem starting occurring. However I can't find any differences between the two hosting accounts. Mine and the new ones both run Linux and both run PHP 4.0. I am at a loss on this.
why is this messed up in IE 6.0 and fine everywhere else
<resists urge to pound MS again. . . > Topic of great discussion, a lot of broken stuff in IE 6, especially in how it renders CSS driven layouts . . . I'm sure SuzyUK has a thread and/or list somewhere that details each one.
If your client is still running IE6 ask "why?".
i just checked a number of sites we are responsible for, all of which see 100 or more visitors per day.
a company web site had the lowest percentage of visitors using IE6 and that was about 1 visitor out of 8.
the IE6 utilization ranged up to 3 of 8 visitors on a developer network-type site for a global technology corporation.
as far as i'm concerned, even 12.5% is too big to ignore...
even 12.5% is too big to ignore...
Then go for it. I don't. Done with fiddling with IE6. Life is too short and there's too much work to be done. 100 visitors a day is pretty small in the general scheme of things. My point of diminishing returns will certainly be different than others. :)
If the client is running IE6 (and I thought I said that) Why? The rest of the world is migrating to IE7. Why is the client running legacy as opposed to reality? As a developer one should suggest the tech edge, not the bleeding edge, of where the product appears. And find a way to make that market TO THE CLIENT so that one does not have to keep on keeping on with IE6. Sorry for two posts, take them as one...
If the client is running IE6 Why?
IE6 will go away soon enough, but I'm not too big a fan of web developers as an instrument of change. Just like in the last days of the Netscape browser, just make your sites degrade enough to work well with older versions. Making your site inaccessible to users of a certain browser is not the path most professional developers will choose.
Hope this helps.
[edited by: tedster at 9:44 pm (utc) on Oct. 23, 2008]
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But virtual PC on windows is free last time I checked, and Microsoft even has free images of windows with IE6 installed ready to run in virtual PC.
When checking sites in IE, I've learned to always do it in a virtual machine with an image that's relatively untouched (a clone of a fresh install with nothing but patches applied) and always use a weathered copy (like my wife's PC). Sometimes the differences between the two can be attributed to having more fonts or other software on it.
As for ignoring IE6: on my main site I've still 31% of IE users that are on IE6 according to google analytics. Too many for me to ignore there.
Although I'm slowly starting to think to use conditional comments to offer them an upgrade the unfriendly way (A pity the firefox referrals in adsense are gone).
The most worry I have is that soon we'll need to test against IE8 as well, and if MSFT doesn't completely fulfill their promise to have it standards compliant -given their track record I've doubts-, we'll have 3 different versions of IE to deal with, at some point enough is going to be enough for me. And IE6 users might well be on the loosing end.
Conditional comments work perfectly in feeding the style rules or whatever else to older versions of IE.
And it's not that hard to do.
Is it just me, or does anybody else find that the notion of telling, say, one in every five or six people to take a hike insanely self-defeating, lazy, and, possibly, an example of a kind of arrogant elitism?
Of course, losing customers because your page doesn't render right on their browser isn't good either.
Does anyone have any statistics on how many of the IE6 users have Win 2000 (or older) operating system and therefore cannot auto-update to IE7.