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4:55 pm on Sep 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Google Chrome, Google's Browser Project
[techcrunch.com...]

Unlike other modern web browsers, which can only run one process at a time, Google Chrome will give each tab its own process. This speeds up overall performance and saves the entire browser from crashing when one tab causes problems.

The multi-process design requires more memory allocation up front but less memory over time as users tend to multitask. It also prevents your computer from slowing down after you browse for an extended period of time and open/close lots of tabs.

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 2:31 pm (utc) on Sep. 3, 2008]
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12:49 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Something else I noticed is Chrome does one helluva job in multi-threaded downloading and a page with 20-2K images appears to all load at once and just snap on the screen.

Opera comes close, Chrome actually does it.

I am so impressed I'm almost giddy!

You would think this was the first time I've ever seen a browser!

12:53 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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-And the final detail: on a listbox, if you click and hold to open the list and pull you finger on the selected option, Chrome is not working, you need to click again to select, so 2 clicks are required while on FF I was using 1.

As a GUI developer I would consider the Chrome implementation proper (or safer) as just scrolling down a drop down list isn't an implied selection and can lead to massively nasty unintended consequences without an additional click.

Not sure which is more intuitive to the user, but I'm sure which is safer.

12:56 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I like it, but won't be replacing FF anytime soon since there are tools I depend on.

Something I noticed: it didn't persist my login on WebmasterWorld, GMail, Twitter & other sites - even though I didn't close the browser. I left it up, went to dinner, came back and had to login again - which I don't have to do in FF unless I close the browser. Probably a 'security feature', but a little strange. (I don't use 'remember password' or any password utilities)

12:56 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)



Of course incrediBill the real test of this browser will be how it deals with spam and dangerous websites.
12:57 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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incrediBILL, you are right on that..
1:08 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Just finished creating my first icon for Google Chrome. It measures 120x20 and reads...

Best viewed with [Chrome Logo]

Placing that in the footer of all me sites now. :)

1:12 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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It's interesting , not seen anyone talk about Google using this as a possible tool to stop MS implementing some blocking google adsense code from showing ( Privacy or whatever reason ) before this Big G had nothing to fight with except courts long hard expensive process , but if G can get decent public take up could be used for tit for tat MS adds if it comes down to a down and dirty fight , suspect not possible with Firefox because they would need to block all or be seen as a G lacky.

Interesting times what this privacy stuff could be used for by the big boys, also does make the fight between the big two the old king and the pretender who is gaining in all areas

1:18 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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It's interesting , not seen anyone talk about Google using this as a possible tool to stop MS implementing some blocking google adsense code from showing

Thats funny as I just finished sending a PM to a member about a possible solution to FF"s addon blocker that is starting ot be used more often..

2:01 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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-Ripping fast on my old klunker machines. IE7 tabs on these machines are practically unusable.

-Low/no chrome is great for small klunker monitors.

-Love the greying in the address bar of everything but the root. Great for branding/recall I would say.

-Best tabs to-date, even w/ FF tab extensions.

-Like P1R said, resizeable text areas--nice.

Way better than expected for a few hours tire-kicking a beta, wow. I kind of don't want to fire up Opera/FF after using Chrome, same feeling I had about IE when I got FF properly extended. Bring on the extensions and there will be a lot of converts and a lot of preachers.

2:08 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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There will be a lot of converts and a lot of preachers.

Since it's launch earlier today, I would guess the number of converts and preachers have grown exponentially.

I've even made my own Chicklet to promote the Google Chrome browser. I like it. I like the fact that is from Google too. Ya, I know, I've been assimilated. Hey, you will be too, one day, sooner or later. Resistance is futile. :)

2:35 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)



I was impressed by the comic-book explanation of Chrome's features and technical innovations. Nicely done. (For that matter, the browser seems to be nicely done, too.)
2:44 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Page zooming works better in FF3 than in Chrome. But it is very fast. Can't live without my add-ons though.
3:17 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Chrome starts up faster than FF3. Also, pages are rendering faster with Chrome than with FF3. I was sceptical initially & even now I hate to admit it, but this one's a keeper. :-) Just waiting for it to accept some extensions eg mouse gestures.

[edited by: isorg at 3:26 am (utc) on Sep. 3, 2008]

3:18 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Can't live without my add-ons though.

Most of the world (IE) can. Perhaps they've intentionally left FF with a niche (for now) in order to grab the big bull by the horns with kid gloves.

3:35 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I just can not get over how fast pages load!
4:20 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Gotta say the V8 Engine Rocks, i bet Microsoft are trying to reverse engineer that baby as we speak......
4:57 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I have this theory, I don't know if it's true or not, but I think the main motivation behind Chrome was to counter the growing threat of adblocking by Firefox. I also think that Mozilla made a mistake allowing these particular plugins to exist as they endanger the free-to-air nature of the Internet, and now they're going to pay for it with increased competition from Google.

[edited by: tomp_gl at 5:09 am (utc) on Sep. 3, 2008]

5:01 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Do you think google would consider paying for download just to get a bigger chunk of the market right away?
5:03 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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"UMPH, there it is":

New! Download Chrome (BETA) - the new browser from Google

google.com

5:25 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Gotta say the V8 Engine Rocks

That souped-up javascript is good for all of Google's AJAX-heavy applications. I'm sure the rewritten JS machine is closely related to that need.

5:52 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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A Chrome review and comparison:

[news.yahoo.com...]

"When playing a YouTube video, Firefox 3 took up 95 percent of the CPU time on a three-year old laptop running Windows XP.

"Chrome came in at 60 percent still too much. Especially since Google owns YouTube! You'd think it could make its browser work well with that site in particular.

"Internet Explorer barely broke a sweat, taking up just a few percent."

6:18 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I have not used Chrome for 12 hours and googleupdate keeps trying to pry through my firewall. Time to uninstall this and wait for version 1.1 with plugin support and phone-home control.

OMG, even the uninstaller pings Google to let them know you are uninstalling and then splashes you via Internet Explorer into an uninstall survey without asking you first.

I'm just going to wait for Firefox 3.1 which will have similar javascript acceleration (compiling) yet be able to use the 1000 extensions available.

[edited by: amznVibe at 6:23 am (utc) on Sep. 3, 2008]

6:56 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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like it a lot, but the extensions are a must so no full switch over yet

I like the inspect element though and the live links in "View Source" are handy too, but missing a print preview

7:11 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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It's been an hour since I completely uninstalled it and GOOGLEUPDATE.EXE just fired up and is phoning home. Son-of-a-bee!

It seems Google Update is installed as a separate program under your profile's application data, and is not uninstalled when you uninstall a Google product. I have another copy of it from when I tried Google Gears (also uninstalled).

Once you uninstall a google product, try running WhatAutoRuns from Systernals [technet.microsoft.com] (now owned by Microsoft) and search for all the google entries - there are a half dozen of them, programs and tasks.

[edited by: amznVibe at 7:20 am (utc) on Sep. 3, 2008]

8:07 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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It's been an hour since I completely uninstalled it and GOOGLEUPDATE.EXE just fired up and is phoning home. Son-of-a-bee!

What do you expect... this is G ;) They want to own your online habits!

They make no specific money from the browser itself....ad actually may have to pay users to download as suggested by someone earlier - but knowing what you do where you go and who you do it with... now that provides a link between advertisers and targetted end-users :) Especially with the Doubleclick behavioural software!

I won't be touching this with a barge pole...

8:56 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I won't be touching this with a barge pole...

Well since I consult others I had to give it a shot of course.
I just tried Firefox 3.1 beta [webmasterworld.com] as an alternative speed boost and much happier now.

[edited by: amznVibe at 8:56 am (utc) on Sep. 3, 2008]

9:11 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I had to give it a shot of course

LOL - of course :)

Since uninstalling the toolbar I have tried not to use G products - they have too much power online here in the UK - so why give them even more ammo to rule what we see, adverts we get shown etc. Doubleclick was just one more step!

Some of the features I have seen look good - but is there anything there that really blows you apart? ie. something none of the others have?

Be interesting to see how this all pans out.

9:26 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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By the way, you know how the reviewers (and Google) are saying "it's only a half meg download" ? That's because it's a stub installer, which downloads the rest of the program after you run it.

This is the real program:
[cache.pack.google.com...]
and it's a half megabyte bigger than Firefox 3 (7.5 megabytes) but who's counting.

10:29 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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ok... been using it today... first thoughts:

It IS speedy. :thumbsup:

but found a bug... er... well, a conflict...

You have to TURN OFF Google Web Accelerator (if you use that)... or else it causes Chrome to load pages like molasses uphill in the winter and you see a "resolving proxy" message in the bottom left.

Turning of Google Web accelerator solves this issue but..... sheesh, you'd think google could get it to work with ITS OWN products. :rolleyes:

Also: No click drag new tab without dropping way at top in bar? grrrr. Super drag and drop will STILL be the TRUMP CARD for Maxthon for me. Freakin you'd think FF and google would caught on to that for now.

HATE that rightclick open new tab. :double grrr: (though at least it opens next to the active tab though. ugh @ FF about that +_+)

Actually LIKE that javascript is a totally separated process...keeps pages from hanging cause of js. I still think js is evil. Close that tab and BYE BYE! :woot: :bye:

still messing with it....

10:31 am on Sep 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Tabs are supposed to be independent of each other, but they do use the same cookie jar. So there is no way to for example run two Gmail accounts in one instance of the browser.

Also, I can imagine that many corporate sysadmins will not be happy about the ease of installing Chrome: no admin privileges required.

Like others I noticed that GoogleUpdate.exe is very active. Maybe that is the tool that contacts G every 30 mins to update the phishing filter?

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