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A Book about Dynamic HTML any good?

ten year old book, wondering if I can learn something.

     
11:55 pm on Jul 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Hello, be gentle this is my first time here. I recently decided I wanted to expand my business and learn a bit more. I currently only do content work, which is fine, but I would like to branch out to other areas, I truly find all of this fascinating and will be taking a class in the Fall about websites. Anyway, I bought a second hand book called "Dynamic HTML" by Shelly Powers, 1998. I know it is old but Im hoping I can learn at least some basics about HTML. I am a bit familiar with HTML but want to learn more. Any thoughts as to how to go about, or just read read read?

Thanks, DJ

12:14 am on July 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Hello DJ and welcome to the forums.

I would not suggest you begin learning with a resource that is devoted to "Dynamic HTML". DHTML is a more advanced topic that combines several technologies -- HTML, CSS and JavaScript. Instead, start by learning basic HTML itself. A good resource would be the free online tutorials at [w3schools.com...] -- they even offer you demos where you can change bits of code and immediately see the results.

Even more, simply reading just doesn't do the job in my experience -- you need to be actually building some HTML pages. Just pick a topic you care about, grab some free server space, and start in. We have a special forum here for people who are New To Web Development [webmasterworld.com] and you can get some good help there when you hit a rough spot.

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thanks so much Tedster I will take all of your advise. I only paid like 6 bucks for the book, and it is huge! Glad I bought anyway. Cant wait....this is more fun then learning to knit! Thanks.
2:39 am on July 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

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1998?! Strewth!

..and if you do ever feel like getting down to "DHTML" get a far more up-to-date guide. Things have changed, to some extent settled down and become less complicated.

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I agree with tedster, reading is all well and good (as long as the info is appropriate/accurate/etc) but I suspect writing for the web appeals most to those who prefer a hands-on approach to learning, and the w3Schools tutorials are ideal

I'd also suggest that everyone - in particualr leaners - steer clear of all (so called) WYSIWYG [google.com] editors and use a simple text editor instead

Notepad is installed on all Windows machines

My favourite editor is SCiTE [scintilla.org]. What I like most about it (other than being FREE and easy to download/install) is that it makes writing/reading your code easier because it 'recognises' indentation and over 20 popular languages, (incl html, css, javascript, php, etc) and displays tags, reserved words, comments and your content in contrasting colours :)

Other than that, it's the same as Notepad in that it WON'T add/correct/mangle any code whatsoever - a What You Write Is What You Get editor ;)

If you feel like reading, a very quick skim over the principles of separating content (html) and presentation (using CSS) [w3schools.com] might give you a sense of the direction the www world is going

As for grabbing some free server space... that could be, IMHO, unnecessary at the very start. Instead, you could simply view your work on your local browser - if you have an html file loaded in SCiTE, hitting the F5 key (on a PC) will load the file in your default browser :)

Anyhoo...

Start at the start, take it one step at a time, and remember to eat/drink/sleep/etc.

Good Luck!

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Can I just say how awesome you guys are? Thank you so very much for your input. I have already started the W3 Class and it is amazing. I am sucking up the information like an Anteater! But one other thing (isnt there always from newbies?) The lingo you guys write in is a bit perplexing ie Bernard says "Strewth" What is that? and Lava says "IMHO" I want to start a website dictionary for catchy slang used on the internet.

Anyhoo....I may be offered a job with a company that builds and supports websites for Realtors! And although I let them know that HTML was a weakness they may want to hire me. Any ideas on the going rate of Content Writers (I get $30.00 Hrly at present) and Webmasters....no too vague...Um People who write HTML? Have not a clue. And just in case your wondering, yes I have been under a rock for two years. But I am reading reading reading here at webmasterworld and just think this is an awesome and diffenitly my new niche! Im joining the ranks boys so watch out! I may be old but not out!
Respectfully, DJ

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The lingo you guys write in is a bit perplexing ie Bernard says "Strewth" What is that? and Lava says "IMHO" I want to start a website dictionary for catchy slang used on the internet.

Since I'm here... "Strewth" - an Australian exclamation of surprise, as in "Strewth mate, where's the beers?!" (so not really internet slang!). "IMHO" - In My Humble Opinion. Whenever I need to look something up, I always seem to end up at this wiki: List of Internet Slang Phrases [en.wikipedia.org]

Just to reiterate Bernard's post... a 10 year old book on DHTML could only end up confusing. Whilst some content may still be valid, there will be chunks which certainly aren't! But if it's all new then how do you know?! I have an old book on DHTML (not sure if it's 10 years old though!) and its got chapters on Netscape and Layers - don't even go there (unless you are teaching history)!

:) -smiley face-

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Yes the book goes from Microsoft HTML to Netscape HTML. Alright I will simple but the book on my book shelf. Who knows, someone may see it and think I am extremely cool!

Thanks, DJ

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