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MX 2004 is out!

         

kingkelly

3:42 pm on Sep 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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All the MX 2004 products froms macormedia are out now, so all you can download the demos. Im downloading Flash Mx 2004 now...

korkus2000

3:46 pm on Sep 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It looks really promising, but the upgrade is a little too soon for the price.

kingkelly

3:30 am on Sep 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ive been playing around with Flash Mx 2004, and it sucks.

Sure, the icons are nicer, but its looking more and more like dreamweaver. Its added a lot of unecessary stuff to the interface which gives you lesssssss room to work with your actual canvas. About half the screen vertically is take up with stupid tabs and stuff. Im disappointed. Flash's interface usually changes drastically every single version, but this one looks pretty much the same as Flash MX.

Theres timeline effects in the new version. These are the dumbest things in the world. The blur efect doesnt even blur it, it grows it fro some reason. The dropshadow is just a duplicate of the image, with less transparency. And all thes effects are imbedded inbetween keyframes. No tween or anything like that is shown on the timeline. It sickens me. Its like their own crappy version of swish.

And for some reason you can switch between Flash MX 2004 and 2004 Professional. Difference? nothing.... Theirs a few windows that arent hidden, and it gives you different template options at the start.

Another thing that bugs me. I had to download like 72mb for this bloody demo, which i uninstalled after an hour. It comes with 17mb of PDF manuals! Not to mention all the help files....

All together, this new flash is wayyy too cluttered, i cant get anything done in it. Loads much slower, and the stuff they added is kids stuff. Oh yeah, its a dreamweaver ripoff now....

Sigh, ive liked every upgrade up until now. i should have known with that stupid name, 'MX 2004'....

Phoneus

6:33 pm on Sep 24, 2003 (gmt 0)



I think the prize is too hight, too. And I dont know why I should buy when I have the old MX or earlier versions. So if anybody knows a real improvement, tell me...

Spice

2:15 pm on Sep 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The addition of CSS code hints in Dreamweaver MX 2004 is worth the price!

Not to mention the added table feedback in Design View.

Great Stuff!

dragonlady7

2:43 pm on Sep 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>worth the price!

If you're pirating it, sure.
;)
No, I'm stuck on MX. It seems that this new one came out very suddenly. And I think they're making a huge mistake with the name. It just sounds to me like something tacked on the side of MX. Because MX was *already* meaningless, and now they're putting a date on the end of it that's not even the *current* date.

I don't know, it just really doesn't appeal to me. I feel like I should wait until the next *real* version comes out.

Spice

3:02 pm on Sep 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"If you're pirating it, sure."
You mean it's not open source?

All joking aside, maybe it’s not worth the price, but I am very surprised by the amount of useful features added to this version. After MX, I didn't think there was much else they could improve upon, but I was wrong.

I have always been impressed with Macromedia’s products, and have yet to be disappointed.

dragonlady7

4:42 pm on Sep 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am kidding. I have a registered copy of DreamWeaver MX that I use at work. That said, it took me months of begging and pleading to get it, and there is no way they're upgrading it. I've only had it six months. So, bummer. How much is an upgrade? I forget. Still probably far more than my company will spend.

One thing Macromedia does, and does well, is find out which of its competitors offers a better product than it does. After finding this out, it then acquires the product that is better than their product.
There's something to be said for that... If you have enough money to buy the best, you then become the best, and people give you money. So, money begets money, and you get a darn fine product out of it.
Good enough for me. Better, certainly, than just forcing the superior but smaller competition out of business, as some notable software companies have done.

Constantin

4:35 pm on Sep 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I found the CSS support in Dreamweaver MX to be a bitter joke. Considering how long CSS has been around, putting proper CSS support into MX should have been a bug fix rather than an upgrade.

Perhaps because I'm a newbie, I expect DW to render several browsers at once so that folks can see if windoze renders differently. With the Gecko-engine built-into OSX, there really is no need for a DW-only browser. Considering how bad the engine in DWMX was, I can only hope that they made the switch!

In my mind, Macromedia has run out of money, and they're releasing this "upgrade" to keep the dough rolling. I won't upgrade unless I find someone that can buy me the EDU version. For the most part, I like coding in BBEdit better because it's rock-solid.

benihana

1:41 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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right, ive spent a couple of weeks with flash2004, and dw2004 now. and id say:

i) they are both incredibly slow loading, and quite ram hungry

ii) dw has a couple of nice features, the css hints/autofill as mentioned being one, but i havent seen much that would make me upgrade (that is, if i hadnt already :(), and it can be pretty sluggish compared to mx.

iii) flash 2004 is the slowest most unstable piece of <expletive deleted> ive had the misfortune to work with.
actionscript 2 looks great, but im never going to learn it if i have to restart the prog every 5 minutes.

sorry these arent particular insightful, but ive spent a few days working on a flash project and now i need to do the simplest little thing but it wont let cos it crashes everytime. i needed to rant.

/rant

ben

[edited by: benihana at 3:59 pm (utc) on Oct. 22, 2003]

dragonlady7

2:39 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hrm. :/
I've just downloaded the trial of DWMX2K4, which is the most hideous acronym I've ever encountered. I have yet to install it.
I've been trying to code my sites in BBEdit, but I just... I just don't have the discipline to manage the linking structures and stylesheets. I am just not organized enough. I need my hand held a little. I need HomeSite.
They don't make HomeSite for the mac.
I also need something to help me with CSS. I don't just need hand-holding, I need to be full-body cradled as I attempt to cope with CSS. I have terrible trouble with it. I. Just. Don't. Get. It.
So I was hoping (inhale)DW MX 2K4(whew) would help me out a bit, because I really need to get this site up and running and looking professional and being rock-solid and all that. It just overwhelms me to have to bop around among all these programs to figure out the CSS and the colors and the layouts and the graphics and the content and... (little tweety birds around head)
It doesn't sound as good as I'd hoped. :(
But, I'll post back when I've really tried it out, and let y'all know whether it really does all the things I need it to do. I don't need much, I just need some help and sorting-out!

Jbrookins

4:32 pm on Oct 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The one selling point for the new Dreamweaver we've found is that when formatting articles, 2004 is MUCH MUCH better at dealing with Word documents.

Now, instead of moving it into something like Textpad and stripping out all the line-breaks and extraneous crap, we're saving hours of re-formatting work.

Basically, if you're publishing articles and often recieve or write them in Word, 2004 MX is worth it's weight in gold.