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When it calls back home

Which site does it give away?

         

web_india

8:01 am on Nov 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

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When the Toolbar (advanced option) calls back home, which site does it give away - those which were visited with toolbar on or does it also send the sites which were not visited with Toolbar on?

Brett_Tabke

8:21 am on Nov 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Only those links (urls) that you click on while it is active.

vitaplease

9:17 am on Nov 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Ok, one IP address, broad band connection, many PC's connected.

1. Some PC's with toolbar, some without. Are the PC's without toolbar always safe?

2. If you deactivate the toolbar, but its not uninstalled, are you then safe surfin?

(safe meaning - private from Google)

web_india

9:18 am on Nov 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

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are you saying that it visits only the links clicked upon and not the sites that are visited by putting the url directly in the address bar or by bookmarks? I thought it visited all sites accessed when the toolbar is on.

digitalghost

9:21 am on Nov 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>>are you saying that it visits only the links clicked upon and not the sites that are visited by putting the url directly in the address bar or by bookmarks?

Stop and think about it for a minute.

Does the toolbar provide PR for the page you visit? ;) You already knew the answer.

web_india

9:22 am on Nov 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

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. If you deactivate the toolbar, but its not uninstalled, are you then safe surfin?

Yes, that's important to know. Because it wont be difficult for it to send all those which were visited when toolbar is deactivated

web_india

9:25 am on Nov 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Does the toolbar provide PR for the page you visit?


But when I visit for the first time (lets say the page is a new internal page of a site with pr6 home page), theres no pr or the guessed pr. Also, the pr assigned to the page would not be because of my making googlebot visit the page but for other reasons.

digitalghost

9:30 am on Nov 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I've seen pages with NO inbound links indexed by Google and the ONLY way they could have been found is by visiting the page with the toolbar active. It dials home when you visit a page from a bookmark, if you type in a URL and when you click a link. Even if it "guesses" the PR it has to know what domain you're in.

If you want to feel totally secure, uninstall the toolbar, delete cookies and surf away. Then when you need to see PR, reinstall it. ;)

web_india

9:49 am on Nov 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

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If you want to feel totally secure, uninstall the toolbar, delete cookies and surf away. Then when you need to see PR, reinstall it.

Guess, I have to spend pretty much time with toolbar uninstall and reinstall now ;)

web_india

9:52 am on Nov 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

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btw, has someone thought of a standalone tool just to get to know the pr of a page. It will be a great tool and would have good commercial value too.

digitalghost

10:02 am on Nov 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

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What you're seeing in the toolbar isn't the PageRank, it's the toolbar PR. Setting up a tool to query Google for the TBPR value would quickly get your IP banned.

I've been telling webmasters to get rid of the toolbar. They tend to concentrate on that little green bar and lose focus on the important things, like writing good content, making the navigation user friendly, trying to get links from sites with high PR rather than from sites with good traffic that compliment their own sites.

Everyone knows that a high PR is a handy thing, but PR won't sell a thing on your site. There are PR8 sites I won't even visit, let alone buy from and a good number of PR5 sites that have me as a regular customer. People buy your product, or your service, or your information. They won't buy because that little green bar reminds them they have green in their wallet. ;)

Brett_Tabke

12:40 pm on Nov 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>1.Are the PC's without toolbar always safe?

Yes, always.

>2. If you deactivate the toolbar,
>but its not uninstalled, are you then safe surfin?

Yes, always.

The only possible "leak" could come when you turn back on the toolbar. IE, may "leak" a referring url of the page that is active when you activate the toolbar (but just that url).