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Dropped PR 5 to 0 and inbound links gone

Penalized? How to know?

         

silverbytes

3:41 am on Aug 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My site was PR5 but now 0 according to google toolbar. Also theres no inbound links to my site now (they used to be so I guess google is not counting it anymore)....

Seems like I got penalized for something...
How to know? What can I do If I was? Is there any way to recover site's health and PR?....

lostworld

9:08 am on Aug 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I know the feeling.
I had a PR of 3, and thought i would use my friends advice (had a PR of 6/7) for small tricks he used and now the PR is 1.
The problem is i thought i would go up not down and of course this does not look to good for a company website.
I added the following:
1x1 pixel with text in ALT TAG
Placing text in the NO SCRIPT Tag
Using the H1 tag
Having more than the recommended Description and Keywords
But i dont know which, if not all carries the biggest penalty. Typing my URL into a metatag analyzer gives more weighted keywords but gives a worse ranking. ARRGGHHH!

trillianjedi

10:01 am on Aug 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The problem is i thought i would go up not down and of course this does not look to good for a company website.
I added the following:
1x1 pixel with text in ALT TAG
Placing text in the NO SCRIPT Tag
Using the H1 tag
Having more than the recommended Description and Keywords
But i dont know which, if not all carries the biggest penalty. Typing my URL into a metatag analyzer gives more weighted keywords but gives a worse ranking. ARRGGHHH!

None of these have anything to do with your drop in PR. I doubt if you've been penalised.

Review the site, take out everything that is in there to try and fool the search engines and just build a good site for users. Read Brett's 12 month guide to a successful site and follow it.

Then get some inbound links to increase your PR. Submit to dmoz etc....

Seems like I got penalized for something...

e-mail a re-inclusion request to google, grovel and promise not to do it again. Then cross your fingers.

Alternatively buy a new domain and start again.

TJ

silverbytes

1:34 pm on Aug 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What about me?

I introduced some changes to my pr4 site and seems I screw it...

What of these could cause my pr down to 0?

Linking to subdomain with identical content but different language

Changing title to: keyword1 to city, keyword2 of keyword1 of city region
Using keywords this way:
key1 in city, key1, key1 of city, otherkey, key1 in othercity, city, something,

Is that harmfull because they are repeated with variations?

h1 and h2 used in homepage without body text

What?

trillianjedi

1:39 pm on Aug 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What about me?

lol

If you've done something that would get you penalised (hidden text etc) - you would know about it. In which case a grovelling email is worth a try.

But from what you've said, doesn't look like it. Just wait for the toolbar to settle down a bit.

More importantly, how are you doing in the SERPS?

TJ

Cipher

1:41 pm on Aug 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have exactly the same problem. My index page has been dropped but the rest is there all 1000 or so pages. Dont know why the PR has dropped as I infact have more links.

What is going on :( The homepage has dropped out of ALL the datacentres.

All I did was add more relevant text, nothing spammy at all etc etc. Seems Google has penalised me for following its rules to the letter...!

jpavery

5:11 pm on Aug 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi Folks,
I went from a PR of 7 to a PR of 0. We still hold several #1s for competitive KWs.

Note - www.msn.com has a PR of 0.

Hope this is a bug.

Any thoughts anyone?
JP

Skier

5:57 pm on Aug 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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After years of comfortable riding at PR 5/6 my index page has dropped to PR 3.

A check of backlinks for the index page shows "Your search did not match any documents". This message started showing up about a week ago - from time to time - now it is there almost always.

My position in the SERPs is essentially unchanged. My index page is still there, but just above me - is my own "links" page. A lousy little effort left over from the site's early days. It doesn't rate a position at all.

Referral traffic from Google goes up and down more radically these days than I have ever seen in the past. One day I hit a new high, the next two days are record lows. Comparing the traffic from other sources, which have remained at normal levels, Google is out of synch.

No one seems to know what is really going on, or what to do about it.

I guess I'll just spend my time link hunting until some answers show up.

silverbytes

9:34 pm on Aug 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Listen: My pr 0 is gone now and I'm pr3 (less than my older pr 5 but I feel better!)

I really don't know what happens but I'm glad to know I'm not penalized. SERPS are normal....

Googleguy is gonna talk?
Someone?

silverbytes

9:41 pm on Aug 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Bigmouth... now is grey again...
?

pmac

2:49 am on Aug 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>More importantly, how are you doing in the SERPS? <

Wise words. Toolbar PR has been out of whack for ages and can't be relied upon as a reliable indicator.

louai

5:31 pm on Aug 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Same problem as yours, and at exactly the same time.
Dropped from a 5 to a 0.

I just followed Google's guidelines to a tee, added relvant content, cleaned up the site.

The site is www.webhostingmontreal.com
Any clues why that would happen?

When I do a SERPS same problem, "web hosting montreal" we used to be ranked number 1, the site that comes up number 1 is using cloaks and redirects to get to that position. It has been there now for over 2 months, while webhostingmontreal.com got dropped off the list (now listed on page #7 or below).

Maybe their new algorithms is screwing up (the one that is meant to replace the google dance over time). Any thoughts on this?

cml1234

9:33 am on Aug 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I noticed in your code that the title was below your meta-tags. I dont know how true this is but i read an article that said that the title tag is very important and should be above all other meta-tags.
This could be nonsense but may be worth a shot?

HeyJim

1:22 am on Aug 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well, lets add my confusion to the list.
My site is squeaky clean, not perfect, just clean in the sense of no "tricks". I've been carrying a PR6 on the home page and showing close to a hundred inbound links, most from PR4+ pages.
I haven't changed anything recently but last week I dropped to PR4 with only about a dozen backlinks showing.
I took it kind of calmly. Things change. Figure out what I need to do to get back to the 6. The links will work themselves out after a while.
Today I check backlinks in my toolbar and I have 1! One! As in 99 less than 100!
I'm still showing high in the serps for my keywords but the PR4 is kind of embarrassing in my postion and only one back link showing is very perplexing.
I spot checked a handfull of my inbounds and they're still on PR5's and 6's but don't show in the backs. I don't get it.
Anyone have a clue?

kriskd

4:02 pm on Aug 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have been struggling since day one to get above zero on my site:

[kittycam.net...]

When I use Marketleap's link popularity checeker, it shows nine links via Google. Shouldn't that be worth something?

Kris

pmac

4:10 pm on Aug 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hello kriskd and welcome [webmasterworld.com] to WebmasterWorld. We try to keep things general, url drops or site reviews are against the TOS [webmasterworld.com].