http://www.widgets.com vs http://widgets.com

one has pr the other is white (not grey)

[EAHunt]

If I accidently leave off the www, I notice that the pr bar is solid white (not grey). Use to freak me out, until I finally realized that white is not bad, only grey.

So my question is, I have a resources page on the site that is a directory of links that ONLY pertain to my industry. It is grey in the bar. Is this bad. It is fairly new, about 8 weeks old. So I was thinking that it just hasn't settled into the index yet.

Anybody have same experience?

Buffy

[chris_f]

Firstly, let me tackle the www. and non www. issue. If these are the same then the reason one has pr and the other doesn't is because Google has releasied that they are the same site and merged them.

As for the directory, Grey bar means a whole multitude of things. It is more likly not to have been fully indexed yet and I wouldn't panic. Google seems to have "stalled" this month and it's page processing seems non-existant.

Now pr in general. This is just my personal opinion but I would switch it off. It is greatly overated and means nothing. I have sites with lower pr appearing above sites with higher pr. Just concerntrate on you position and inbound likes. Ignore pr.

Chris

[DavidT]

[Firstly, let me tackle the www. and non www. issue. If these are the same then the reason one has pr and the other doesn't is because Google has releasied that they are the same site and merged them.]

chris_f, can you provide some evidence for this? I would have thought it dangerous for them to assume this since it is so easy for the two addresses to be so set up as to present two different pages. Takes 5 minutes.

I had thought that the non www address was PRO because no backlinks to it.

[JustBinoculars]

I recently noticed a severe drop in my page listing from a number 3 listing on page 1 to a page 7 listing which turns out to be worse then when I first submitted for my main keyword " widgets "

After contacting and writing a previous email to google and knowing that google has been re-indexing the sites and going through algorithm changes I questioned why my site was dropped from such a good ranking.

In light of this I also decided to dig a bit deeper to try and figure out what may have happened. I noticed that my listing through google for my main index page was coming up with absolutely no page ranking anymore. I found this to be odd since I always ranked as a page rank of " 5 or 6 " and now it is at zero ( grey bar ). That's when it hit me, for some reason google now indexed my site as [widgets.com...] which comes up with a page rank of zero and previously it was listed as [widgets.com...] which comes up with a ranking of " 5 " and probably was why it was doing so well.

I was wondering if someone could shed some light into this and maybe provide a solution and how I may help to fix it.

[DavidT]

If you are on an Apache server you could use the solution given here:
[webmasterworld.com...]

[JustBinoculars]

Thank You Thank You!

I hope this puts me back to where i was on the next crawl! I'm so glad i found you guys.

All The Best!

-Jim

[Wired Suzanne]

I only can say: Be careful with this.
I'm normally using [widget....blabla...]
However, a few people were nice enough to link to me with [widget....blabla....] Then I got listed in Google twice. And my PR was split. Two times PR3. Luckely it is all solved now. I asked all the linkers to change the URL. I took three updates and still sometimes the funny www shows up, but at least my PR6 is back.

[JustBinoculars]

Well, i wish i could say it worked but ....

I'm not sure what google is doing now but i had the re-direct put on my site and continually watched my site bounce in and out of the rankings. Now google seems to have dropped my site altogether. Does anyone have any insight as to what google is doing?

My site went from a number 4 ranking down to a page 7 ranking with my PR disappering and coming back then disappearing again and now being completely dropped altogether from their index. I relied quite heavily on a combination of Adwords and my standard listing to provide the bulk of my business but now i am solely forced into adwords alone. Maybe i should drop my adwords campaign altogether and just use Overture. I mean i only spent $35,000 last year with google so maybe my site really isn't that important to be listed with them anyway if they can't even keep my standard listing indexed.

Thoughts anyone?

-Jim