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Does Toolbar only show back linking sites that have PR4+?

Huge disparity between toolbar backlink count and AlltheWeb

         

ThomasAJ

3:57 am on Jan 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I read somewhere that the backlink feature on the toolbar only shows sites whose PR is 4 or more.

May explain why I get a 6 to 1 ratio between AlltheWeb (Link.ALL:....) and Toolbar.

Any ideas?

Tom

vitaplease

8:44 am on Jan 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Yes, sometimes it even show a Pagerank 3 backlink. Although I am not totally sure that could be some indexing/crawling/iteration time glitch.

Alltheweb (FAST) shows all back links it can find. However ATW also "doublecounts" all the DMOZ/ODP clones it can find, whereas Google more or less has weeded them out. (it is another question if therefor a DMOZ listing counts more for ranking in FAST than in Google).

Google also seems to list a double count of the backlinks in the results.

Then there is also the difference in index size of both Search engines, Google claiming approx a 50% bigger index..

ThomasAJ

11:44 am on Jan 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Thanks for that. The old 'quality vs. quantity' issue I guess.

Off topic I suppose, but throughout many forums people talk about 'competitive areas' without anyone (that I could find) mentioning any figures. OK, upon reflection I'm talking about keyword search frequency which probably has a close correlation to search engine marketers' focus, and money of course (let's not be shy).

Yes I'm stumbling here. What I'm getting at is - "without firm figures how does one know whether it is worthwhile tackling a 'highly competitive area'.

Does 1,000,000 searches for a general keyword constitute a competitive area. Maybe 50,000, maybe 20 million.

Can an experienced SEO say - "Oh you have product xyz, which is in net marketing category ABC, so you need to tackle keywords so and so, you need approx. 1000 Google backlinks, you need etc. or don't even think about it.".

Is there any empirical data about based on the key components of internet marketing that would help one decide whether to embark on certain strategies.

Well, if you can understand that then you're a better person than I :)

Tom

vitaplease

11:54 am on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Just another thing.

Alltheweb will show incoming links to subpages of the site as well, even when doing a search for: link:www.mysite.com or link.all:www.mysite.com
(without the subpage url address in the url)

Also, in my opinion Alltheweb will show less site internal backlinks than Google does if your internal pages have a PR4 plus Pagerank.