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Thanks,
Catnip
Your page has a PR of 6. You can link to ten million pages and your page will still have a 6. You can distribute a large portion of that to one page, or smaller portions to many pages....
By linking out to all on every page you are limiting internal PageRank transfer within your site.
In addition, by having a single outbound (standard) link on each page you are linking to authority sites on each page - and this helps you in the long run.
It's not just external "sites" linking in that determines a page's PageRank. PR is also determined by how all your internal pages circulate their PageRank during the iterative PR calculation.
Quinn's example is extremely unlikely. More likely, the PR6 page probably links to other internal pages, which in turn link to the home page, which links to the PR6 page. ( PR circulates). If you suddenly add 10 million links to your PR6 page, it could affect the PR6 page's PageRank, when PR is recalculated after the next update.
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Links to non-content pages
representative of the "PR-leak-deny'ers" camp, whereas others are in the "PR-leak-does-happen" camp.
I think this is a matter of semantics.
Outbound links do not drop your PR, but there is a question on the value distributing the PR to another entity, than back to your site. I think the word 'leak' tends to make people think that there is a fluid quality to PR where it's going in one link and out another without benefiting their page/site.
I think this is a matter of semantics
Many unknowingly confuse the term "PR linkage" as a drop in PR for the page in question - when actually the term refers to the spreading on PR across many paths, and simple division... the more paths that have access to this PR, the less each path gets.
[edited by: fathom at 12:20 am (utc) on Jan. 31, 2003]
Then, we're supposed cloak our outbound links with javascript so as not to share that gained PageRank with anyone else?
Am I reading this correctly?
So, to increase PageRank we need to go out and get links from as many other sites as we can (with high PR).
Then, we're supposed to be selfish and cloak our outbound links with javascript so as not to share that gained PageRank with anyone else?
Not sure Catnip was going out and getting anything. Just trying to provide a useful link to a viewer.
Sounded to me like these were seperate from the reciprocal links.....
Then, we're supposed cloak our outbound links with javascript so as not to share that gained PageRank with anyone else?Am I reading this correctly?
No...wrong.
I don't think you would keep many links, if the web owner learned of this practice.
Catnip's specific question referred to linking to sites that do not link back - and more providing those sites multiple links from each page (with the side bar) thus reducing the potential of PR transfer within his site.
Please do not confuse these separate issues. Some believe hording PR is worth it... I and the vast majority of members do not.
It's just on a side bar I have that is part of my footer.php so it displays on all of my pages. Thanks for all the input
CatNip
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Well, Thank you guys for these valuable info!
There is just one more thing I need to know, where can I get the java script code that I can use to my outgoing links "Those who don't link back to me ;-)"
Mohamed
I have heard it mentioned that linking to authority sites is beneficial but how. Does the text you link with in any way make a difference.
Also, is there any difference between using javascript or a <form>. I use a <form> to hide my outgoing links and put the form tags after my </body> text. I heard Google could follow javascript links, but it cannot follow forms.
Does anyone having any proof that outgoing linking helps in the long run.
Yup -- makes perfect sense to.
I have heard it mentioned that linking to authority sites is beneficial but how. Does the text you link with in any way make a difference.
Look at this as your web site is an airport - all flights come in - none go out. The PageRank you gain are airplanes and they keep piling up. hmmm... lots of planes.
It doesn't take long to acquire wealth of plane assets (or PageRank)but how many people are going to keep flying in if they can't get out.
Googlebot same thing - the easier you make it for the little bot to crawl continously within a never ending maze of links the better it likes it.
However, not any link out will do - not many people flying into New York would like to head home via a number of small airports exchanging flights numerous times - Googlebot same thing. She just loves massive link structures (authority sites & hubs) that link to everything it can get its hands on.
How much value would you associate will an airport that allows you to fly anywhere to an destination?
The web is call the web for a reason and Googlebot is a natural born leader for linking things together.
Back to reality - proof is in the research. And yes the anchor helps.
Also, is there any difference between using javascript or a <form>. I use a <form> to hide my outgoing links and put the form tags after my </body> text. I heard Google could follow javascript links, but it cannot follow forms.
Googlebot cannot follow Javascript links and forms - an action (on click) in both cases is needed, and Googlebot doesn't have a mouse or keyboard.
some older threads on this issue:
[webmasterworld.com...]
also Googleguy's remark on Pagerank hoarding related to this linking:
[webmasterworld.com...]
and a future with javascript indexing?:
[webmasterworld.com...]
Basic advice:
Nothing wrong with using javascript links, but always have a normal amount of links to relevant sources and resources with natural links.
<script>
function hiddenLink(){
window.location="http://someplace.com";
}
</script>
<a href="javascript:hiddenLink()">Link</a>
1. I would have to place... <script>
function hiddenLink(){
window.location="http://someplace.com";
}
in my java.js file multiple times for each link, correct? and have different names for each one i.e. hiddenLink = weatherlink, mapquestlink, etc... and how can I make it open a new browser.
Thanks in advance,
Catnip
<a href="#" onclick="window.open('http://www.url.com', 'int1', 'toolbar=yes,resizable=yes,scrollbars=yes,width=800,height=600,left=0,top=0');" title="link anchor">Link Anchor</a>
A little more flexible to since the window pops-out and your site remains behind - clickers don't lose you.
disabling toolbars and such (yes/no) - but remember other sites are not always identical to your site thus if you disable (scrollbars) the clicker cannot manipulate the link site... and detracts from usability.
Thanks for the help.
:)
