New site is PR0 Not Grey Bar

[shady]

I have recently come up with a name for an informational insurance site (check my profile!). I have never created any links to this or submitted it, as I haven't even developed the site yet - it just shows a directory listing! Google has somehow got hold of it and listed it (with a PR0).

Does this mean it was a previously expired domain, with a penalty?

Is it now dangerous for me to link to it from my "good" domains?

[HuhuFruFru]

don't worry, *all* of my sites got a pr0 at the beginning (when they first appeared in google). it takes 2-3 updates until you get a normal pr.

[Nick_W]

Yep, way to early to worry yet. Build your content and links and in a couple of updates if you're not getting pr: worry ;)

Nick

[shady]

Thanks guys! One thing, though - how has google found the site? There are no links to it and I've not submitted it anywhere! Do they use the toolbar to find new sites?

[albert]

Found similar surprise recently: development site set up as developmentsite/mycompany.com.

mycompany.com is indexed for a long time. No links and such to developmentsite/mycompany.com. But sometimes it shows up in SERPs, and vanishes in most cases an update later.

How come? Don't know - except one suspicion: it's hosted all under one IP. That's the reason, maybe?

[ciml]

Shady, submissions in Google are almost useless. If the domain is new then Google could have picked it up from the whois. The Google Toolbar agreement doesn't prohibit them from using Toolbar data for Googlebot, but I've seen no evidence of it.

albert, that URL sounds like it's been submitted or linked to.

[albert]

CIML, i'm quite sure it's neither submitted nor linked to. You're sure that's the only ways to show up at SERPs? I'm in doubt.

[julinho]

Nothing is completely hidden in the web. For example, you visit your new page, that visit is registered in your log files, google bot crawls the log file, the bot follows the link to the page and voilá, the new page is included in the database.

However, a few other people have come to this board and said that the only way that some of their new pages had been included in google was by means of the toolbar. So, instead of looking for complicated theories, I would say that the toolbar helps googlebot finding new pages.