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Brett_Tabke

11:28 pm on Jan 25, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've had a hunch for a little over a year that a domains registration date affects Google rankings.

Anyone feel the same?

annej

12:03 am on Jan 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Do you mean in how many years ago the domain was registered?

I've wondered that but then I look at the back links for my 96 domain and it has collected a lot of links over the years.

Anne

[edited by: annej at 1:20 am (utc) on Jan. 26, 2003]

troels nybo nielsen

12:19 am on Jan 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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> Anyone feel the same?

Well ehrr... yeah. But it's only a very vague gut feeling. I would be completely unable to support that feeling with some substantial facts.

In the coming week I will be launching a "new" domain. "New"? Well, actually I have owned that domain for over two years but never used it. I wonder how that combination might affect a ranking with Google if indeed the age of a domain _does_ matter. Any ideas?

EquityMind

12:23 am on Jan 26, 2003 (gmt 0)



I've often wondered that and looking at my current roster of clientele would almost corroborate that fact... which scares me into taking on completely new clients. Please prove me wrong.

jady

12:32 am on Jan 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have seen sites (as they get older) automatically get high PR values. Funny - a Church site that we produced years ago (NO MARKETING AT ALL) has had a PR of 5 since PR was available in the Toolbar. Never fluctuates.. Maybe they give organizations such as this a little "umph" as well!

hurlimann

12:37 am on Jan 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am sure it doesn't.

It can look like this but it is mainly down to the fact that the longer the domain is active the more links it will be likely to get.

EquityMind

12:40 am on Jan 26, 2003 (gmt 0)



True. I'm hoping that it is coincidence but since Brett brought it up it made me start to think and it seemed like the sites that are taking longer to achieve page 1 status on competative keywords are relatively new.

nutsandbolts

12:45 am on Jan 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I agree with Hurlimann. I'm sure it makes no difference at all and it's mainly down to people linking to the site over the years.

Yidaki

12:56 am on Jan 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Brett, why, what, how, under what circumstances ....?

1) I've got *fresh* domains that make it into the top 4 days after registering them ... staying there since ..hmm, 3/4 year.

2) I've got 2 year old domains that are increasing positions month after month (i work on them - linkage, content ... all stuff)

3) I've got 5 year ole domains that sit in their spots and just move if i do something (new links, new content, ...) otherwise they stay at their position ... since years.

So, what do ya mean exactly?

<added>i also think that it's normal that year ole domains get more links pointing to it than a new one and thus move higher in rankings month by month</added>

jady

1:16 am on Jan 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I would agree - except this is a community church and still only inbound links are:

1. Our Portfolio Site
2. DMOZ
3. One External Link

brina

3:54 am on Jan 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't know guys... my domain was registered in 1999 and I can't seem to get a PR6 no matter what I do.

HayMeadows

4:05 am on Jan 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm not sure about the age of the domain, but what about the keywords included in the registrant name?

I for one, changed the registrant names to include keywords for all my clients a few months ago - no use taking chances :-)

I've had a lot of success ranking very well in Google, maybe this is one little reason why.

And, can they check the ownership of domain names for cross-linking purposes?

brina

4:09 am on Jan 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have found that the only benefit from keywords in the domain is for the exact term and it seems like it only works for top-level domains. Anyone feel differently?

EquityMind

6:10 pm on Jan 26, 2003 (gmt 0)



Having at least one keyword within the top level domain may have helped my get a PR7 for a couple of my clients. I have another PR7 client that does not have a keyword in the domain however.

Marcia

8:38 pm on Jan 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Actually, the keyword in the domain name has nothing to do with Page Rank, which is numerical. It's got to do with having the keyword in link text for the boost it gets.

Now, once a site gets decent PR it becomes easier to get other sites to link to it if it's reciprocal, which is good for additional PR, but that's from the PR value of the links - the math. The bonus is that once there are more links in there are more occurrences of link text. There might be a cap on how much of that does good beyond a certain point at any given time, though.

brina: only benefit from keywords in the domain is for the exact term and it seems like it only works for top-level domains. Anyone feel differently?

There's benefit from directory names also, though there's no doubt an edge with the domain. As far as exact phrasing goes, aside from domain name, that affects on-page factors and directory structuring as well. That's proximity and there can be changes with that, just like with any algo shifts. I just made some changes last night to see what that'll do in a couple of places; next month will tell (or maybe freshbot).

Sometimes I think there's an almost instinctive measuring just with the naked eye of how much to phrase or not - which can't be done with the domain name, but it can be other places. That's one of the factors that can easily be changed over time, other than the domain - things shift over time.

hunch for a little over a year that a domains registration date affects Google rankings.

I've never thought of it that way, and I'm probably wrong, but I have wondered for quite a while if there's some aging factor with Google because I've seen a few things that indicate the possibility - even with no other changes whatsoever. It might amount to the same thing, though I've seen some sites stick like glue when they shouldn't that are on free hosts, too.

If it's a possibility, it's another effective argument for opting for the long term brandable domain.

Night_Hawk

3:13 am on Jan 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think it is like humans "you get wise with age" at least some of us, but it does not mean that an older person is wiser than a young one who is been through a lot and learnd from it.

I would say it is the more links you get with time.

AJ

taxpod

3:20 am on Jan 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I can't say as I've seen a correlation between time and PR that isn't explained by gaining more links over time. I;ve got a PR7 that has been around about 6 years and a high PR6 that has been around for one year. The PR6 is gaining links fast and will probably be a seven in one third the time it took the older one to do it.

So I don't think I see the correlation, all other things being equal.

Marcia

3:36 am on Jan 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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PR can increase over time without adding additional links if the PR of the pages already linking goes up.

Beachboy

3:40 am on Jan 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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<<I've had a hunch for a little over a year that a domains registration date affects Google rankings.>>

Brett did not claim a correlation between age and higher ranking. I have observed in previous posts the "pop" of a new page or domain that later settles down. He could mean an initial higher placement for a new domain. Brett, care to elaborate on your meaning?

Brett_Tabke

4:47 am on Jan 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If you could put 2 domains online where one was reg'd 3-4 years ago and never had a dns entry and the other was freshly registered - one of them will rank higher.

angiolo

8:21 am on Jan 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have not the answer, but my experience with several new domains (freshly registered) is that they immediately had an excellent ranking despite the fact they had few (but good) inbound links.

Comparing the page optimization and link popularity with other "old" domains (with better link popularity) I have the impression that old domains are a little bit penalized. In other words "older the domain, less weight have the inbounds link".