google and teoma

why I stick with google...

[jpavery]

I'm just reading a newsletter on Teoma... made me feel I was missing the boat. I punched in a phone number from a call yesterday into Teoma (note I used google yesterday and landed on the persons contact page)... Teoma first 5 results were dead links and did not have the persons home page anywhere to be found
Hype=Hype
Results=Results
Keep up the good work Google...

[korkus2000]

Teoma is an up and coming player. They also give results to ask.com. After a recent update I am receiving some nice referals. I think it is one to pay attention to in 2003. Google is on top now, but teoma and ask look very promising to me.

[jpavery]

not wearing blinders.... but reading about Teoma (must of been a press release) felt like reading why 4 razor blades is better than 3... just a lot of hype.

In truth I would like to see google not be so big... right now my company is enjoying a boom and we hold #1 for our relevant KWs in google... if we should fall out of favour with google or get beat out of the top 10 I think we would suffer a lot.

jp

[klatschaffe]

not wearing blinders.... but reading about Teoma (must of been a press release) felt like reading why 4 razor blades is better than 3... just a lot of hype

as they say in the newsletter: this is an evolutionary change, not a revolutionary change....:)

I also think we should have an eye on them since they seem quite promising to me as well.

[Yidaki]

And teoma also "gives results" to google ... 3.270 indexed result pages from teoma [google.com] ... ;)

[union_jack]

Teoma is PANTS compared to Google, especially for the webdesigner. Google spiders your site within a month or two in most cases, even if you have a 10,000 page site. I have been on Teoma from the begining and I still don't have half my site spidered. Also you have to pay to even get on there now, not with Google.

If I target a keyword on Google with my site I will have 12 chances a year to get to the top and I always get there eventually.

Google give you a PR toolbar to see how you are doing with you sites and from this you can tell if you are linking to a bad neighbourhood and much more.

Google should have the power of the webdesigners behind them with these facts in mind.

Google is the savior of the Webdesigner.

THANK YOU GOOGLE!

[rfgdxm1]

>Teoma is an up and coming player.

And also FAST. These seem to be the two that should be watched. Things do change over time with search engines. Remember when Altavista was a major player?

[SubZeroGTS]

i still use altavista, it has different results than google most of the time for in-depth searches. and a large index. so if i can't find something on google, i usually check altavista.

i don't like teoma's commercial aspect at all. their subject indexing gimmick sounds confusing on paper and works even less brilliantly in real searches. i think the best bet is a modified version of google's way, using links. i think they should have a link priority system. or value. certain links have less priority/value (guestbooks, lesser content sites, etc.), and they should keep track of users clickthroughs on results...purely for indexing purposes. like if someone clicks through for one result, then that's another value that goes up for that site's listing, and combine this with the link priority/value system. if the user does not come back for another search on the same topic (track this using cookies), then it goes up higher. and then of course, a more practical verison of the subject thing that teoma uses. this is all pretty hard and complex to do for a search engine i guess, but in this day and age, there's nothing else. i don't like companies banging through search engines with PR gimmicks instead of actual search engine advancements.

just my $0.50

[rfgdxm1]

I use Altavista the same way. Because of quirks in different algos, what will come up high on one engine and not another. Thus, useful to switch from Google to others when trying to dig even for the most obscure material on a topic. Teoma is getting there, but has a way to go. The same with Alltheweb, although in a different way.

[Beachboy]

I am occasionally unfaithful to Google ;) ...but not often. If you're a search engine and you're not digging deeply and often into the web, then you're not doing your job. Teoma has a ways to go. If you're not presenting highly relevant results, you're not doing your job. FAST has a ways to go.

[mat_bastian]

Teoma Fast Ink and Google will be a four headed search monster in the year to come... maybe two years out, but Ink is a huge part of that senario. That's my prediction.

[nutsandbolts]

Fast, Altavista (with their latest and fresh! type algo) and Wisenut are the best after the unbeatable Google. Teoma leaves me totally cold and I'm far from impressed by their average search results.

[Brett_Tabke]

When it comes to ease of use, and speed of actually finding what I am looking for (eg: the whole point) in the fewest number of searches, Teoma wins. If Teoma has the page (often doesn't), I can usually find it much quicker and more accurated than Google.

That refine search suggestion feature relieves you of that hunt & peck search process where the engine double dares you to guess what I know.

I would like to see Google take the tech behind "labs" and roll it into a "search suggestion" feature at the bottom of every search as a "related searches", or "suggested searches". Even just the top 3 related queries would make a big difference. (better yet - sneak them into a box below adwords to train surfers to look over there ;-)

[snowfox121]

In reading this thread the thing that interests me is that Google and Teoma are being discussed as though they are somehow similar. As far as i'm concerned Teoma is not even a search engine. Teoma is to search engines what vanity press is to legitimate publishing. "If you've got the money, honey, you deserve a listing."

My site is called "bigredwidgets.com" and a search for "big red widgets" (in quotes) should bring up NO sites other than mine, as i have yet to find any site on the web with those words in that order. i've got tons of incoming links, moz, yahoo, the works.

Teoma? Nada. My site does not exist. There are no results for "big red widgets," even though my site is the only place on the internet where you can find those words.

Not only would i not recommend Teoma, i would recommend strongly against it. i ran some test searches, and the "results" (using the term loosely) are padded full of commercial interests. A searcher does not get a comprehensive list of what's available.

Why would i recommend Teoma to anyone? Why would i send them $60?

[Yidaki]

>(better yet - sneak them into a box below adwords to train surfers to look over there ;-)

Hey, wow - thanks! ... GoogleGuy, please listen! ;)

Great idea!

[GoogleGuy]

Hmm. Everybody's got their own favorite search engine. I think surfers should try them all and find what they like. And different engines return different results for different queries. That keeps each search engine on their toes trying to return the best results, and that's good for everybody. :)

GoogleGuy, feelin' mellow tonight :)