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Google pick up .net version of my website

How? I never submitted this and no incoming links.

         

Phil_S

3:35 am on Jan 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just play around I typed

site:MyUrl.net MyUrl

Results 1 - 2 of about 451

I never submitted the

.net

version of my site, and it has no incoming links.

How in the world did Google pick this up?

Now I wonder if this is going to hurt us.

DrDoc

3:47 am on Jan 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Why would it hurt if domain #2 is indexed?
Don't they point to the same site?

And, if you don't want it indexed, play around with .htaccess or robots.txt

Add a redirect to your "real" domain ..

Phil_S

3:49 am on Jan 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It's the same website.

Will this be dup content?

rfgdxm1

3:50 am on Jan 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>How in the world did Google pick this up?

Possibly from someone posting the .net on a bulletin board that was spidered.

jamesyap

3:59 am on Jan 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If you new domain send visitors to other site, their log files will contain the domain as referral and many of these log files can be reachable by googlebot, so googlebot will reach your site too.

My Advice,

if you use PHP or other scripting language, check for the domain (basename), if it is the 2nd domain, refresh the page with the original one.

I see no benefits on having 2 domains esp in terms of site popularity and search engine friendly ... just stick to one and the 2nd or 3rd are used for typo traffic.

Phil_S

4:02 am on Jan 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't think so.

I looked for all pages containing "www.MyUrl.net" and got no other websites or pages.

I tried entering everthing I can think of in the Google search box to look for this.

I think you can find ANY website that has your url on it by entering

"www.YourUrl.com"

into the search box.

TheDave

7:35 am on Jan 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I just went to check (with a search on my site), to make sure I gave you the right information, and I wish I hadn't now, because in the links to my site, according to google, there was None! ;( I hope its only temporary, From lots of links - the referals are in my logs and still building - to none.. very strange..

Anyway, to find all sites linking to yours you search for:

link:www.mysite.com

Phil_S

11:20 am on Jan 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think Google is finding urls just from you viewing them.

I found my personal website.
www.firstandlastname.com

I never submitted this site and no one knows about it.

Google also has my old urls all mixed up and combined with each other.

Google can put a hurting on you.

They are too big and control too much.

Our website is clean and just got a gray bar.
I told them about the url mix up and I think they just removed my old url but gave my new url a gray bar.

They really don't have much support for website owners.

I love the Google search results, and I never thought I'd say this, but I'll be happy when they are no longer the big dog. If you get caught in one of their filters by mistake they can put you out of business.

Hey, didn't some company try to sue them because of this.

Brett_Tabke

1:18 pm on Jan 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Some possibilities:

Toolbar. Someone surfed the site (.net) with the toolbar on. Big 'ol thread on that from last year:

[webmasterworld.com...]

Searches. Someone searched for the domain name on Google.
As rfgdxm said, there could be bbs links, or the difficult one to track is Usenet.

Whois data. Simply having the domain registered is enough to trigger a spidering. It's spotty in that it doesn't appear that g does it regularly (hand thing), but many think it's there.

Wildcards: html errors where links were misinterpreted due to page errors.

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What it all means? Not much. Google deals great (about the best ever) with dupe content. The second lower ranked site will just get a lower ranking.

Lastly, if you have a continuing problem with it - some ideas for fixing:

- use an htaccess routine to redirect the visitor to the right domain. Example:

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www.webmasterworld\.org
RewriteRule ^(.+) [webmasterworld.com...] [L,R=301]

- ask your host to do a hard (301) redirect to your real domain.
- use absolute urls in all your insite links. If GoogleBot does stumble into a .xyz dupe of your site, atleast if you have the .realtld in all the links, Google might not find all your tld variations. It won't interp "href="x.htm" as being on the tld out of favor. Where as, href="http...foo.com/x.htm" stands a greater chance of actually helping.

You have to assume Google gets links anywhere googlebot runs into a http on the net - anywhere.

After that, don't worry about it. Google deals with dupe content about as good as anyone (Ink being the other one with an excellent filter).

rfgdxm1

7:31 pm on Jan 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Good point Brett. I had forgot about the Toolbar possibility. And, since Google runs Google Groups, they could very well scan those posts for URLs they don't know about. However, I think bulletin boards is the most common scenario. One thing that should be remembered is that just because Google found your URL on a bulletin board doesn't mean it would necessarily show up on a search for your URL in the toolbar. Google may have found that .net on a BB months ago, but it no longer is on the BB because many BBs expire posts after so many days. However, Google still knows that .net exists.

Shadow

12:20 am on Jan 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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During November and December I added 15-20 domains to a reseller account, and at the same time I changed the name servers at my registrar from parked to pointing at those accounts.

Checking the stats late in Decemember I noticed googlebot had been visiting all of them (I think), along with that whois bot who is always travelling. These were all empty domains, just an "index of" page.

Now, I haven't checked to find out if I had any other hits on any of those domains, but from what I rememeber, some of them had only been visited by googlebot and whoisbot. They were not linked to by me, they were fresh, and as I said, none of them had any content.

I'll check the stats for all of them in a few days when I get back to my bb connection :)

oh, I almost forgot, I didn't have the toolbar installed on the computer I used to put the domains live, and I didn't visit those domains using my regular computer until after googlebot had visited.