Forum Moderators: open

Message Too Old, No Replies

Pr?

         

SoleDrag

3:59 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Can anyone give me the basics of PR? I'm assuming that stands for Page Ranking. Excuse the dumb questions. How do you find out your PR?

lazerzubb

4:00 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Download the toolbar at toolbar.google.com
Read: [webmasterworld.com...]

And view the part for PageRank, also try finding it via the "Site Search" on the top of each page at webmasterworld.

Liane

4:02 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Unless you are on a Mac, then you have to check it manually as there is no toolbar for Macs. :(

SlyGuy

4:04 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



..oh..and Welcome to WebmasterWorld [webmasterworld.com]!

Sinner_G

4:04 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



LOL, just in the time it took me to go to the Google knowledge base and copy the URL, there were already two replies... :)

<edit>and the third while writing :)</edit>

SoleDrag

4:28 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Got it. My PR is 2. Horrible I assume. I take it the key to higher PR is more link popularity, and keyword rich text, right?

It also seems like Google's cache for my home page is older than a month. Am I doing something wrong?

lazerzubb

4:32 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Read the Knowledge Base and [webmasterworld.com...]

And you will be fine, and the cache thing i don't know about wouldn't worry about it.

SlyGuy

4:53 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I take it the key to higher PR is more link popularity, and keyword rich text, right?

Very important.

Dante_Maure provided a good list of threads about links over here [webmasterworld.com].

SoleDrag

4:53 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Thanks, that A-Z thread is great.

I'm mostly worried about what my old SEO did to my Tags. I have a feeling what he did is alienating me from Google to some extent.

Does this look acceptable to Google?:

<meta name="robots" content="follow, index">
<meta name="distribution" content="Global">
<meta name="rating" content="general">
<meta name="Language" content="en">

SoleDrag

4:54 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Or this at the top:

<!--include File="Settings.inc"-->

<HTML>
<HEAD>

Sinner_G

4:59 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



The metas can't hurt, although I'm not sure distribution and rating are worth much.

What is in that settings.inc file?

SoleDrag

5:00 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



One last question. I've heard two different answers on this. Dose having my catalog pages like this hurt me?:

www.mydomain.com/catalog.asp?ca=3

I've heard that .asp? is not good, yet Google does recognize them on my site.

Which is correct?

SoleDrag

5:01 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



re: settings.inc I have no clue what it is.

Sinner_G

5:07 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



*.asp?whatever=anything:

Some search engine robots have trouble reading special characters (or don't like them for various reasons), but Google is getting better at it. And anyway, if it takes yours, stick with it.

settings.inc:

Somewhere in your file structure, probably in the same folder as the html page, there should be a document called settings.inc. Open that with an editor and look what's inside.

ciml

5:17 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



If you have "?" characters in your URLs, then it takes more PageRank for Google to spider them. As Sinner_G writes, there's no problem if Google is fetching those URLs.

PageRank is only about link popularity, now keyword rich text. PageRank is based on the amount of PageRank that a page linking to you has, divided by the number of links on that page. Google uses PageRank along with your page content and the text in links to your pages.

MeditationMan

5:35 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I take it the key to higher PR is more link popularity, and keyword rich text, right?

The first part is spot on, but PR is entirely to do with links and nothing to do with keywords.

Keywords are of course very important when it comes to Google judging how relevant your site is for a given query, and therefore for your placement in the search engine results.

SoleDrag

6:14 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I see. It's dawning on me the possible importance of paying for banner ads. Paying for a banner ad on a high PR page will obviously help YOUR PR on top of the traffic you get from the ad itself. Is this correct?

Sinner_G

6:46 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



I don't think so (but could have to stand corrected by the google gurus). Since banners are mostly displayed through a script and an ad server, the link will be ladden with? and whatever other symbols, so the robots won't follow them. In fact, lots of banners link only to a counter on the ad server, so it will not benefit you at all.

A permanent site sponsorship would be sometehing else, i.e. if you could get a site to display your banner for longer time with a regular HTML link directly to your site.

SoleDrag

7:14 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I see. So you'd be better off with just a regular text link on high PR pages.

SlyGuy

7:32 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



So you'd be better off with just a regular text link on high PR pages.

Exactly.

..and when you find them, sticky me with the URLs ;)

SoleDrag

7:40 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I didn't say I could do it :-)

BigDave

7:49 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



So you'd be better off with just a regular text link on high PR pages.

And with your site being a PR2, high PR pages would include PR3 sites.

Picking up links from PR3 or PR4 sites is a lot easier to start with than finding that PR7 that would even bother looking at your site. You should be able to make it up to PR4 without too much effort.

And multiple smaller PR links will probably do you more good than the one big link when it comes to other areas of the algorithm.

Don't ignore the high PR pages, just concentrate your efforts on those easier low PR links.