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jamesyap

8:32 am on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If a title is too long, google will display ... from my researh it doesn't depends on how many words but more on lenght.

Any ideas and comments on how they determined where to stop and continue with ...?

Hardwood Guy

11:36 am on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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James:

From my understanding this was mentioned within the last month: Google takes sixty caracters and what I see is where the tag starts and what lies immediately after it. I prefer to use words or phrases that would most likey catch the person's attention and what is on that particular page. However, I've wondered if Google places more emphasis in their search results with words placed toward the beginning of the tag. For example...

"Industrial widgets. Home widgets. Widgets in North Carolina..."

I realize this is a question and maybe I should start a new thread. But if I were to move North Carolina to the start of the title would my page be higher in search results if folks used "Widgets North Carolina" as a search term opposed to how it is written above?

Ken

jamesyap

2:20 pm on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Instead of trying to fit as much keywords as possible to the title, I prefer to have fewer importnat keywords in front, then the non key-words but very catchy phases following at the back. This will make sure visitor search for the keyword in front are attacted to click on my link instead of others even if the page is not listed very high.

I think google give the same weight to the keywords anyway in the title within the 60 characters you mention. But I have notice if you search something like 'blue widget' a site with title 'yellow blue widget' will rank higer than 'blue yellow widget'.

But if the 2nd site out perform the 1st site in terms of PR and inbound links, then it would have no problem ranking higher then the 1st site.

So, my final comments is as long as PR and inbound links is high, you can mess around with the title to bring in more visitors easily.

I have a popular site that does't have the word 'widgets' instead I have 'widget'. I add teh word 'widgets' to my title, this simple SEO has bring my site to #1 for that term.

bigjohnt

3:53 pm on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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According to BT in a previous post, 5 words, 45 letters max. I agree. Keep in succinct, to the exact phrase you are targeting, or fill it in with stop words to make it more clickable. I prefer the more is less approach.

jamesyap

4:45 pm on Jan 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't think is 5 words as most title has more than 5 words display. 45 characters might also be too little. My site display 9 words with 62 characters including space. (No ... at the back)

Everyone who read this please post the number of words and characters your title is display in the search results. Tell us also your exact title lenght.

Hardwood Guy

1:20 am on Jan 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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James:

That's what I found...62 characters including spaces. Total words eight with ...at the end because I have four to five other words in the title that help to rank me on the first page of certain search phrase requests. Or at least I'm assuming it helps.

jamesyap

5:58 am on Jan 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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So did it help with the word hide behind? I think they help, just they have less weight. Other search engine usually display longer title, so there are still bebefits with a longer title.

Hardwood Guy

9:14 am on Jan 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It seems to work for me James. For instance I do unbiased product reviews and ratings. If someone is interested in say a "blue widget" that can be found at one of the big box stores and they use one of the big box store names and the product in the search I'm way up there in the search results in google, yahoo, and AOL. It's drawn alot of business for me and this is not any low priced ticket item either.

Thank you google!