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The Dangers of Possessing a little knowledge

PR supreme?

         

taxpod

2:37 pm on Jul 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I guess it's been a couple months now that I've been reading this forum. When I started I was under the impression that Pagerank was the supreme arbiter of serp rankings. Thanks to all the knowledgeable people on this forum, I've come to realize what some of the other important elements are. But what I'm writing about here is that there is extreme danger in possessing too little knowledge. I've actually come across a site that has posted on its "trade links with us page" the following message:

"If you want to become a partner of sitename, your site should have at least Google Rank 4 and you have to place a static link and description to sitename as shown below on the main page of your site before submitting!"

So now it seems sites are not only trying to trade up their PR by trading links - probably not the best scheme - but they are also demanding that a page be of a particular PR before even considering a trade. This seems like a great way to engender one's site with the community of which it is a part. I encourage all my competitors to follow this example.

On a related note, I had a request from a site to trade links and, liking the site, I agreed. Then when I visited the site to see my link, I looked at the source code and found it to be imbedded in Javascript. I removed that link immediately and will never consider linking to the site again. I, once again, encourage all competitors to follow this example. I'll be happy to find these competitor sites and point out to those linking to it the unfairness of the trade.

In conclusion, I have seen all sorts of schemes to build up pagerank and I wonder about the wisdom of trying these things. Obviously PR is but one component of where you rank in the serps. And before you follow these techniques you need to conclude that everybody else is stupid and nobody will ever discover your tricks. I guess I've decided that in addition to really working at good content, being a good citizen of my web community and having a touch of integrity might better serve me in the long run. Getting short term gain in PR certainly is not worth the potential of ruining my site's name.

Mike_Mackin

2:40 pm on Jul 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>I guess I've decided that in addition to really working at good content, being a good citizen of my web community and having a touch of integrity might better serve me in the long run.

Joke:
That takes all the fun out of it :)

nutsandbolts

2:57 pm on Jul 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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You have to be very careful with your sites. I learned the hard way with my big fat slap in December. I would never risk any of my sites again by linking up (cross-linking) to try and get a better ranking.

The forumula to success is -> Build lots of quality content. Make the site something YOU would want to visit every day and you will get the traffic and a good rank. Keep it Fresh!

Aside from the odd glitch, It's amazing how clever that Googlebot is when it comes to seeking out good quality sites.

I'm SO chuffed the site I had in my profile last month is back. It's a great site with hundreds of great articles, news and research papers.

There will always be people who want to squeeze a few more hits to their site via Cloaking, or even using WPG - but it just ain't worth it.

edit_g

3:40 pm on Jul 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



taxpod- I think you have to remember that the web is built on links and not on pagerank. Every link will help and will bring some traffic-not just googlebot.

I know as well as anyone how important PR is but the links aren't there to serve PR they are there because that is how people can move around on the internet. If lots of people link to your site then people will recognise it as a good site- that is why you are trying to get the googlebot to visit, isn't it? To get people to come to your site.

taxpod

4:00 pm on Jul 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying. I'm in total agreement with you.

I am simply noting that a webmaster who thinks they can drive traffic to their site by controlling the type and quality of links into their site while offering only JS-imbedded links back in return is mistaken. These sorts of "techniques" are not the way to build a heavily trafficed site. Building great content and encouraging people to link to you will get you traffic. Playing games will get you into trouble.

JamesR

4:36 pm on Jul 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



>Playing games will get you into trouble.

I for one give other webmasters one shot, perhaps two. If I feel they are monkeying around with me, forget it. I blacklist them and won't work with them period.

edit_g

4:45 pm on Jul 25, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



"I am simply noting that a webmaster who thinks they can drive traffic to their site by controlling the type and quality of links into their site while offering only JS-imbedded links back in return is mistaken."

Sorry, my mistake. This is very fair indeed. ;)