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A page I added recently showed up in the cache 48 hours after being crawled.
How long until it shows in SERPs? Anyone have any stats on that?
How long's a piece of string?
If it gets so far and stuck, check all your links (both in and outbound), meta tags, h1, h2 tags, alt tags, keyword density, every single detail you can think of...and then some more!
You're established, your battle is now with the guys who are already positioned above you, they're probably just as good as you, use every legal tactic at your disposal...GREAT FUN, nothing I enjoy more:-)
Well, other than drinking beer and entertaining women...
Finanlly, one piece of advice.
Don't panic when an alteration doesn't move the site upwards, sometimes it does not, keep tweaking and recording each upwards improvement so that you can apply that knowledge to your next page etc. but do leave a reasonable amount of time between tweaks to see how it reacts to the algo.
Sometimes they start out ranking very high and then move down somewhat. Other times, they start out ranking very low and move up.
The "move up" process can take from a few days (rarely) to about a month. For me, I think it usually takes around two weeks to get the initial "moved up" ranking - then more gradual movement happens as time goes on. Partly depends on how far it needs to move to get to page one and how far down it started.
Thanks for the info, so wait 3 to 4 weeks then revisit.
I had three new pages that got crawled that were optimized for google of those: 1 is #50, the other 2 are sight unseen. They are fairly uncompetitive keywords too.
No, pages rank immediately, and at fairly close to the level where they will rank after a month or so (unless there are a lot of off domain links pointing to it).
Another of my sites has a What's New page which seldom changes. A new page on THAT site can take 2-3 weeks to be found.
You need a constant supply of BotBait to keep Google coming back for more and more.
Incidentally, I tried to start a thread that no-one went with, asking for the time from visit to appearance in cache. My "busy" site gives the impression that the time is quicker than my "basically unchanging" site, so I seem to gain two-fold on the busy site.
DerekH
No, pages rank immediately, and at fairly close to the level where they will rank after a month or so (unless there are a lot of off domain links pointing to it).
I'm surprised it works like that for you. Never has for me. When a page starts out ranking very low, it moves up much higher (like 3 or 4 pages) within a couple of weeks or so. Maybe because I usually have quite a few links pointing to it from within my own domain? So maybe the initial ranking gets modified later by the internal PR sauce that's in the mix?
I would tend to agree with this which is why tweaks need to be made to get it on the move however I'm also pretty sure that bether2 is correct when he says:
>So maybe the initial ranking gets modified later by the internal PR sauce that's in the mix?
That would fall in nicely with my experiences.
Loads of TLC and tweaking...
It's going to depend on how often and how deep you are crawled. If you have a 100 page domain, with links on all pages to the new page, and 80 get crawled the day you add your new page, and you have no external links to the new page... well, that's just about it in terms of all Google needs to know about the page. Bigger site, more links in obscure places, less deep crawl... Google is going to take longer figuring out how much you value this page.
In my case, pages tend to appear when linking is basically done, and most of the pages that link to it get crawled at the same time, so its approximate rank is where it starts.
On the other hand, one of the blog spam pages let in the other day appeared for a term in the teens, and has been moving up every twelve hours or so, presumably as more thousands of blogs get crawled with the link on them. (I'd still say though position five is the same ballpark as position 15.) In this case there are literally thousands of links for this page that will be found over the next several days, so it will rise (and then plummet) when all this data is finally fully factored in.
Both search terms contained the name of a specific company, so it was fairly reasonable to assume it would rank well once spidered and cached.
So 48 hours sounds right.
thanks for all the info everyone
By 8:00am the page not only showed up as number #1 for the term I was going after, it also shows up as being indexed.
Guess it depends on your site.
After 3-4 days it's indexed and ranking at #32 for the targeted keyphrase. It's a semi-competitive phrase, returning over a million results.
I linked to the page from my main nav menu, which appears on every page of the site.
they all tanked
