Debuting a Site at PR7 or Higher

How do you do it?

[tama]

I've seen very encouraging posts here from people who make a site and their initial PR is 6 or 7. I've had sites for years, worked for hundreds of backlinks, have good original content, not too many outbound links, in good neighborhoods, optimized, etc. etc. I've never been able to exceed PR5. My hat is off to those who can do better. What would you suggest I do to improve my PR?

[ciml]

To get an initial PageRank of PR7 on the Toolbar, you would need to get one or more links crawled with high enough PageRank before during one PageRank cycle.

Do you have a friend with a PR8 page that doesn't have too many links on it? :-)

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I've started to see some pages with Toolbar PageRank values that are not consistent with the full-cycle that we used to see, so my answer above may no longer be correct in every case.

[rj87uk]

tama your next question should be, Who has a page rank 8 website and who wants to be my friend? :)

But seriously, Can i ask why you want a page rank 7 to start off with? and have you thought about buying a few text links from some peoples home pages?

rj

[tama]

Well I'm pretty sure there is some link buying going on in my sector. The top of the SERP's for my keywords are divided by sites who either have a lot of incoming links, a lot of content, or a high PR. None of the sites seem to have all 3 of these variables covered.

The number one site has 80,000+ incoming links, most of which are coming from one site with a PR4 or higher on all the pages I checked. Other sites that fare well that don't have any incoming links, or tons of content, but are optimized well, but have a high PR. My site lies in the middle and is lost. It's optimized very well, I've got hundreds of incoming links, hundreds of indexed unique pages, but a PR5. Unless I buy a ton of links, I'm not gonna match 80,000 incoming links or improve my PR dramatically.

The part that confuses me is I think my site represents more of what Google encourages - unique content, natural un-reciprocated links (9 years on the net, no link-building campaigns) and it's in a good neighborhood.

I know there are a lot of people here who think PR is dead. I'm of the opinion at this point that it is not dead, it's just not the only factor Google considers when ranking a site in the SERP's. I think I've got most of my bases covered, except for a higher PR.

[nuevojefe]

Got deep links? Try contributing some content to a relevant site (with high PR) for a link or something to that effect. If you're going to start buying it, i'd suggest staying on topic.

... are not consistent with the full-cycle that we used to see...

Not to hijack the thread but could you be a little more specific on that one note?