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<a href="http://[1][/1]<exampledomain1>.com/exit.cgi?http://[1][/1]<exampledomain2>.com">websitetwo</a>
and, In my browser, I can goto websitetwo by clicking on the link, will google transfer the PR from webpageone to webpagetwo?
[edited by: ciml at 5:04 pm (utc) on Mar. 29, 2004]
[edit reason] Examplified domains. [/edit]
In principle these kinds of links can transfer PR. However, the question can't be answered without details, i.e. which kind of redirect is used (e.g. 301), is exit.cgi excluded by robots.txt and is the page cloaked.
There are related threads, e.g.
Plugging the page rank leak [webmasterworld.com]
Linking without passing on PR [webmasterworld.com]
A large important site in my field has set up a nice
link to my site, but instead of an <href.. anchor
type link, they show my site as a frame from within
_their_ site. The URL is something like
[THEIRSITE.com...]
This persists even after I click on the nice link.
Looking at their source code, I see:
<frame src="http://www.THEIRsite.com" name="topFrame">
- and then immediately after -
<frame src="http://www.MYSITE.net/" name="mainFrame">
Question: Will this count as a valuable link for
the sake of PR, or does Google ignore it entirely
when crawling their site?
THEIRsite is very highly rated. I'm on good terms
with THEIR, and don't want to lose that, the link or
referrals.
I tried to find this topic here, but earlier
discussions are closed and/or leave me confused.
I didn't see anything about Java or iFrames,
whatever those are.
Any help highly appreciated. -Larry
exit.cgi is disallowed by robots,txt
In this case no PR is passed (because Googlebot is not allowed to read the redirection page).
Question: Will this count as a valuable link for the sake of PR, or does Google ignore it entirely when crawling their site?
A frameset is transferring PR to the frames. Therefore, if the (frameset) page is normally spidered (no cloaking, no exclusion by robots.txt etc.) you'll receive PR from this page.
Thanks very much for the valuable information!
I checked their robots.txt. They only
disallow /cgi.bin and /private. I see no
sign of masking of cloaking.
Here's THEIR rather short page in question.
... www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd">
<html> <head>
<title>Untitled Document</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
</head>
<frameset rows="83,*" cols="*" framespacing="0" frameborder="NO" border="0">
<frame src="THEIRSITE_topframe.htm" name="topFrame" scrolling="NO" noresize>
<frame src="http://MYSITE.net/" name="mainFrame">
</frameset>
<noframes><body>
</body></noframes>
</html>
That's the whole page! They call up their
header, then call my page right under it.
That's AOK with me, as long as PR is passed
as an incoming link.
Given the above, can I presume that Google
credits me with this high-value link?
Best
- Larry
PR is passed to your page/site as long as the frameset page has PR (you can easily check this using the toolbar).
I'm sure the guys with the frames site will have good
high PR if they don't already. They are on the first
page of a one-work keyword in G, and deservedly so,
out of a field of over 4 million for the same short
keyword.
One last tough one: I don't use IE. I don't want
to try and attach the Google toolbar. Is there any
OTHER way to directly read the page-rank site-rank
or whatever, short of trying to find them in the
Google Directory, and interpolating numbers from that
damned green bar at the left?
I'd love to see if my main page rates a 5 or a 6,
but simply don't know how. I will gladly sticky
my URL to anyone who has the toolbar.
Thanks again!
- Larry
As for using redirect URL's that are blocked in the robots.txt file I feel they will probably come under 'hanging links'. In other words the PR is still given away by your page but it does not get given to the resulting page.
