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Tonight (UK time) I have noticed that my site has went back to being a PR of 5 when it went down in Jan...
Anyone else confirm this?
edited: After 5mins it has gone back to a PR of 4!
-George
BTW, this seems like a good quiet time to remind people that if you're obsessively hardwiring IP addresses in your hosts file in order to check what a PageRank display says: don't forget that there are other search engines out there. Spend some time looking at rankings on other engines as well (the old "don't put all your eggs in one basket" theme). All that time spent on backlink/PR checking would also pay off by spending that time looking at how other search engines score pages. :)
Translation: Those who hardwire to the datacenter, we know who you are and your sites are now doomed. Better get crackin' on the other search engines because we are going to nuke your sites.
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the crawlers send data to google's servers www3 and www2 and then overnight ( what happened last night, to be exact) the data from those secondary servers is send to the "www"
Some call this GoogleDance, and it is a good way to "look in the future" and see what is coming - just replace the "www" with "www2" in the google's search URL and you will see if there are any upcoming changes to be made soon.
Also, while the servers exchange data (usually one night every 3 months) you could see "fluctuation" of the page rank and the website information. It's usually over within 7-8 hours, so do not worry if you experience this while monitoring your website.
Yes this is quite correct. The toolbar is thought to be a logartihmic interpretation of true Page Rank.
But as i say , each page does bring a page rank of 1 , even if it doesnt show as such on the toolbar.
- traffic has doubled since last PR update
- amount of pages on the site is 500% more (all backlinked to front)
- 75% more backlinks
- Internal pages PR are stable or up (including some which match front page at PR 5)
- SERP rankings seems about the same.
Other possible factors:
- Front page has always had tons of links (over 100), but this has never adversely affected PR.
- Added outgoing links throughout site for advertising campaign.
Not really complaining...just comparing notes on why PR would fall so much when all indicators on my site seem positive...
I have some 5-8 year old sites that are always a solid pr6-7 and never move, while some of my newer sites (in the past couple years) are still only PR5s - even though many have 10 times the backlinks and 100 times the traffic.
What is surprising (and undeserving) is some of my newest sites (less than 3-months) have shot up from PR0 to PR5 in yesterday's PR update.
Things are still unstable, and hundreds of solid backlinks have not been added to the toolbar for months (including some PR8 ODP backlinks), and while almost all my sites are visited daily, the last PR update excluded most of the past 4 weeks of new content - even though the content lists appropriately in the SERPs.
Since there is no rhyme or reason to the dozens of PR results I monitor, I have a strong feeling that G is playing some games with the true values - or just haven't figured out how to accurately calculate it since Florida. (after 50 days they had to update it with something since many were ready to pull the toolbar).
But overall, I've found the SERPs to be much improved from the Florida mess (even though I have some very solid sites that are still in a black hole somewhere), but while March 16 created some excitement for some, I think it was just a precursor for much more to come.
Steve
My main site is still PR3,which it has been for over a year, a little dissapointing but I'll live
The flip side is my secondary site wich I did very little with now has a PR2 some 4 weeks after launch
Not sure if any of this is helpfull, just my observations
I got my 2 sites updated from nill to PR 4 today.
Good News for me and best of luck to all.
Thanks
Exp...
A number of 'free link' sources value have disappeared just in time for this pr update, so, by nature, there is more PR in the pool for quality sites in the same area.
Those with decent quality sites in competitive areas are averaging pr7 right now, not 6 like the past year.
Since it's all relative, it doesn't really matter, unless you depended on those free links. I have seen no evidence of the SERPS reflecting anything new on competitive phrases.
It feels like failing an exam and not knowing why!
While www.mydomain.com ranked 6, domain.com ranked Zero, now both www and straight domain.com rank 5
Google treats them as seperate entities unless told differently. Similarly www.domain.com/ and www.domain.com/index.tld. The possibility is that you have inbound external links in one format, and your internal backlinks are in another. So your PR is shared in two or even three loops.
I found this out a couple of days ago when I discovered I had separate PRs for www.domain.com/, www.domain.com/index.php, and domain.com. Thankfully someone in another thread was able to explain it to me, and as a result I have now set my internal backlinks to ../ instead of ../index.php, and am also going to add a .htaccess rewrite for domain.com to www.domain.com.
Googleguy mentioned that the domain problem was something they corrected from time to time. I understand the / or /index.tld problem also disappears over time, but not if you update the index page.
I wonder if this is something that is affecting other people who are seeing an unexplained drop in homepage PR.
you have inbound external links in one format, and your internal backlinks are in another
This penalty was applied just about a year ago, and maybe it is, as was hypothesized at the time, set to expire one year after the domain was penalized.
OTOH, I discussed this domain with Matt Cutts at Pubcon, and maybe that had something to do with it.
Never Mind
Couldn't come up with a reply at the moment that doesn't appear like a flame, can someone describe to me what I am missing with the term tld?
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100's of links to my site and a PR6 but not one link shows up when performing a backlinks check
what I am missing with the term tld?
If you mean my typo, nothing. My fingers were ahead of my brain. I meant extension (html, hml, php, etc), not Top Level Domain.
- Finally getting classified into the Google Directory 2 months after being listed on Dmoz.
- What was said before about domain.com was zero and www.domain.com was 6 now both are PR 5
Notes: Site has been live for 7 months, the last 5 of which PR was constant 6 no drops or modification only growth of incoming links & content ..
Can anyone confirm seeing something similar? Or it is simply a coincidence.. Thanx
