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Tonight (UK time) I have noticed that my site has went back to being a PR of 5 when it went down in Jan...
Anyone else confirm this?
edited: After 5mins it has gone back to a PR of 4!
-George
Cheers,
--moftary
Considering our G backlinks went from just over 1,000 to 1,400 in the update I'm a little disapointed in the .com change and totally amazed by the co.uk change.
But out PR is still 3!
Our competitors have less links but more PR.
I feel like pulling my hair out.
It seems it is getting much harder now to increase your PR
At last all those long hours spent researching and cajoling webmasters with relevant content sites to swap links is paying off.
Looks like old data to me, so Im guessing that most of the changes are already in place wrt SERPS.
And it disappeared. Would that be a penalty GoogleGuy?
My main page is still PR5 and two of my deeper pages went from PR5 to PR4 but I am still doing better than ever. (2500 visitors/day compared to 1800 in December)
My backlinks decreased from 105 to 62. Overall my PR and BL are worse than before but my SERP is better. Not what I had to expect to see.
We have a domain (registered it about 8 months ago) and it had a PR0 right from the beginning (as we later learned it was preowned). No backlinks ever showed up until yesterday. And for the first time all backlinks were credited (visible using the link-command) and the site received a healthy PR6.
Maybe GoogleGuy has some info?
The sole reason that I ask is that it is clear that mine have not moved and I have so many and so many changes that it is not possible that it has "updated" and stayed at the same figure.
I understand that these things fluctuate, so I'm not complaining at all about it, but if someone can (a) tell me if they are still seeing new backlinks at that IP address or (b) let me have another place I can go to in order to check out backlinks, I'd be most grateful.
"BTW, this seems like a good quiet time to remind people that if you're obsessively hardwiring IP addresses in your hosts file in order to check what a PageRank display says: don't forget that there are other search engines out there. Spend some time looking at rankings on other engines as well (the old "don't put all your eggs in one basket" theme). All that time spent on backlink/PR checking would also pay off by spending that time looking at how other search engines score pages. :) "
Sounds like Google might be spidering other search engines ..
a) tell me if they are still seeing new backlinks at that IP address
The following: [66.102.9.104...] is giving the new links. I have tested it using the three sites that I track and the links have updated.
I think it depends of the date that the links went up. I would say that if you got the links more than 45 days ago there is a good chance of the links being counted. The newer the links that you got, the less of a possibility that they are listed.
I don't keep daily track or weekly for that matter, but I can tell you that a link that was up on 1/31/04 is not being counted this time around, but a couple that went up a couple of weeks before are.
If you have a similar timeline, you might have to wait until the next time around. On the other hand, it could have been that the update missed them.
Sounds like Google might be spidering other search engines ..
No, sounds as though Google knows even the big G is not the be all and end all of search engine traffic - don't spend all your time obsessing over little green bars! Work on red exclamation marks as well if you want traffic to your site. Sensible advice. :)
Anyway, how do you spider a search engine? Start by requesting every possible keyphrase? Find the pages that Yahoo has spidered and not Google? Hm...
PR seems to have stayed the same though.
Does the addition of over a billion pages to the G Index, and increasing the index in size by about 1/4 I think, dilute the total PR to be distributed? (Same Pie, Being split 4 ways, instead of 3)?
Just trying to understand PR and its distribution better,
Thumpcyc
One site with the same scenario for over a year,
PR = 0
backlinks = 0
bought it and found out later it was "pre-owned" by someone who never developed it.
Yesterday, it suddenly had over 700 backlinks showing and was PR = 5 and most of the subpages are PR = 4 with a few being PR = 3.
I am very happy to see it has been found worthy in its current incarnation. I was planning to move all the content soon but now I can get back to developing content for other sites.
I was starting to think that it was a bug.
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.
No - every new page brings a page rank of 1 so the pie gets bigger too!
That's true for raw PR. The toolbar is believed to report based on a logarithmic scale that is necessarily adjusted when total raw PR goes up significantly. So the toolbar PR may be diluted, e.g. PR5 sites slipping to PR4 even though raw PR remains the same for the site.
There are some examples above of people who've done nothing to their sites but have seen an increase in PR (that can be caused by incoming links becoming more valuable, but it's happening too much across the board to be attributed to improvements in PR of incoming links). There are some who seem to believe that it's gone back to old data. I can identify with both of those.
Then there are instances of orphan pages gaining in PR. Those orphans pages could be getting some inward link from somewhere. But when you have orphan pages with healthy PR of 5 or 4 and when there are no discernible backlinks to them either in G or alltheweb or anywhere else ... something may be afoot.
Sorry, all you guys, I've got increased PR as well. Lots of pages have moved up from a PR5 to PR6 and far be it for me to complain about getting better PR but maybe this is just the PR Google wants you to see and it may differ substantially from your real PR. That will help G move everyone's focus away from the green bar (something they've been trying to do for a while).
I don't think google devotes all that processing
time simply to display misleading results.
True, most people here are noticing PR
increases...but that seems logical, right?
People who work to increase/improve
site content, optimize pages, and seek links,
would naturally be more likely to see PR increases.
On average, at least.
The site operators in these forums are characteristically very different from those who set up sites and then forget about them for months or even years.
I would guess this means PR and backlinks aren't been fully included yet? Not really sure though?
Marc
