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"Any clue as to the possible role greater reliance on semantics is playing in your never ending quest for more relevant results?"
I'd say that's inevitable over time. The goal of a good search engine should be both to understand what a document is really about, and to understand (from a very short query) what a user really wants. And then match those things as well as possible. :) Better semantic understanding helps with both those prerequisites and makes the matching easier.
So a good example is stemming. Stemming is basically SEO-neutral, because spammers can create doorway pages with word variants almost as easily as they can to optimize for a single phrase (maybe it's a bit harder to fake realistic doorways now, come to think of it). But webmasters who never think about search engines don't bother to include word variants--they just write whatever natural text they would normally write. Stemming allows us to pull in more good documents that are near-matches. The example I like is [cert advisory]. We can give more weight to www.cert.org/advisories/ because the page has both "advisory" and "advisories" on the page, and "advisories" in the url. Standard stemming isn't necessarily a win for quality, so we took a while and found a way to do it better.
So yes, I think semantics and document/query understanding will be more important in the future. pavlin, I hope that partly answers the second of the two questions that you posted way up near the start of this thread. If not, please ask it again in case I didn't understand it correctly the first time. :)
I am curious as I just tuned in and don't want to wade through all 22 pages of this thread. I see that www2 and www3 results are mentioned in the same breath as GG, did he say that these serps are what we can expect on www when the dust settles or is it the opposite? Thanks.
We are following the flow results that were on 64.*.*.* which GoogleGuy confirmed would become the new data on google.com and others in the near future. It looks like that dat has moved onto www2 and www3, Yahoo.com and it is occasionally seen on some of the national domains.
If you can be bothered with the tedium. Go to 64.233.161.104 or 64.233.161.98 or 64.233.161.99 which we are reliably informed is the new update and compare that with www, www2 and www3.
Best wishes
Sid
Would someone explain what is the meaning of all this reporting?
Aint it clear that the main point is not that www resolves to 64*, but when the results from 64* go to the pther dc?
Many of us are seeing an update for the first time in this much detail. Is there a normal sequence of events that should be expected? Do results usually roll out first to www2 and www3? How long has it taken in the past to stabalize on www. Is Brandy following the pattern of past updates?
How long after a major update like this does G normally wait to update their listings? My entire site has been crawled by G during the past week. Changes to my index have been picked up next day, but none of the other pages are showing.
We're seeing UFO's in Moscow, london new york and LA! AHHHHHHH
oh yeah, and www2 and www3 are pointing to 216 and 216 is now reporting 64 results, at least for me anyway.
