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Becoming an Authority in google

         

marin

5:03 pm on Feb 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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What does a site need to become authoritative?
- Comprehensive information: pages/articles covering most of the related subjects?
- Structure and quantity of a site's inbound/outbound links?

Suppose an index ranked top 10 in a competitive area. This page can be considered authoritative
containing the proper tokens and the proper links to related subjects from the same site/other sites.

What could happen with different inner pages/subjects:

a. Each page/subject is very well ranked for his own keyword, being part of the authoritative site; the internal page factors are secondary; the searcher is happy to find easy useful info, gg is happy to be relevant, the webmaster is happy too.

b. Some internal pages are not very well ranked; the subject is well covered, but the information is not presented in a contextual environment (i.e.: missing links to related subjects); other internal factors are secondary;
In this situation maybe google is right, and the mistake can be easily repaired

c. The internal pages are penalized, because of the internal page factors (i.e. keyword density, H1 etc) – in this case the “build with user in mind” principle is not google’s goal; it is most important to punish the OOP, punishing in the same time the surfers, vanishing important information because of artificial arguments. In this case the authoritative concept is superfluous: how can a site be authoritative without being composed by authoritative related info?

IMO this last case is the most frequent after Austin.
If a page covers a subject, but is dropped, being preceded by hundreds of non related pages, just because of OOP, and this is the new algo philosophy, then give me a break. I think it is about time to forget about google.

cbpayne

7:21 am on Feb 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Is becoming an authority (in Google's computer bots eyes) really that important? I thought getting links from these so called authoritive/expert sites on the same theme is what is important (at least according to one of the several theories to explain the last two updates) ... but I stand to be corrected on this.

KevinC

8:12 am on Feb 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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From what I've seen becoming an authority requires a good sized site with lots of pages and a decent page rank.

I think it is important for this page rank to come from a combination of many links instead of just a handful of high PR links.

Marcia

8:18 am on Feb 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>combination of many links instead of just a handful of high PR links.

And beyond PR, there's topical relevance to look at. Teoma is a good read on that, with their concepts about web communities.

glengara

9:10 am on Feb 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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IMO to qualify as an "authority", a page needs to have links from those pages deemed topical "experts".
Size and PR are, IMO, mostly irrelevant.

zgb999

1:58 pm on Feb 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Size and PR are not that important in some cases, in others size is still very important. I think with the new algo it is easier to tell what works (in some cases) than to tell what doesn't work.

So IMHO if you want to be seen as authority / target you need to have relevant pages for the theme you want to rank well:
- one theme only on that page
- inbound links (as many as possible) from
--- external pages about the same theme (the more external ones the better)
--- internal pages about the same theme: The more content on the site the better. If you can't beat the competitors with good content on the theme you rather chose a sub-theme and concentrate on it. (Like that you might get on top of the main theme also)
--- pages that rank well for the keyphrase you are targeting
--- directories / hubs
- off-site outbound links on that page seem not to be that important (unless you want your page to be seen as directory / hub which is also a way to rank well)
- on-site outbound links to other pages on the site about this theme will help (show you are an expert on that theme)
- PageRank of the page is still important (but only a part of the algo)
- on page optimization is important (but don't overdo it...)

If you don't follow one of those points it doesn't mean that you don't rank well. I am sure there will be people who find an exception for every point mentioned above. But so far I could always find a reason for those exceptions.