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SEO enters mainstream on USA TODAY print edition

Frontpage Story on making Google-friendly websites

         

Chndru

12:50 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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A Google search for the words search engine optimizers (without quotation marks) yields about 30,000 hits. The Internet consultants design Web sites and write copy to match what Google's computers look for, such as keywords and links to other sites.

They tweak their sites to match what Google's sophisticated technology looks for when ranking search results. They study Google's preferences and changing methods the way detectives study clues.

[usatoday.com...]

BallochBD

2:20 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The case for Google could not have made better by someone on Google's payroll. Very one sided!

Shak

2:28 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Superb article for Joe Public who needs a slightly better understanding of the power of search marketing.

The whole world does not spend their life on WebmasterWorld, so anything in plain english is great news.

Naturally some of the stuff in there is laughable, but hey, overall a nice bit of work.

now I better go find this guys number:

''I live, breathe and die Google,'' says Chris Winfield of New York-based 10E20 Web Design. He charges $1,500 to $5,000 to help make Web sites ''Google friendly'' and get them in Google's index of 3.3 billion Web pages

User friendly = Google Friendly (save the $5,000)

Shak

apply75

3:05 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)



yea I took a look at that honeymoon site and saw why she was deranked, she had about 3 pages, a pr of 4 and 30 words in her title tag and she is crying that she lost sales... Good for her she shouldnt have been there to begin with. Its not hard build a big site with useful content and dont try to over optimize and get some links to you and you should be fine. I have been ranking in google for years by just doing the basics never try to trick anyone or have fluff and I have some sites that got hit but I noticed they provide the least value. Make useful sites people thats it google will find you. I also laugh at how these stories of people buying a few words on google and tripling sales how about all those guys that buy ads and spend more than they make it happens....

europeforvisitors

3:21 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)



I also laugh at how these stories of people buying a few words on google and tripling sales how about all those guys that buy ads and spend more than they make it happens....

Google charges by the click, not by the impression, so businesses that spend more than they earn need to figure out what they--and not Google--are doing wrong. They may be buying the wrong keywords, or they may have the wrong advertising message, or they may simply be unable to convert prospects into buyers.

To put it another way, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink if you've filled the trough with sewage instead of water. :-)

258cib

3:58 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Google charges by the click, not by the impression, so businesses that spend more than they earn need to figure out what they--and not Google--are doing wrong. They may be buying the wrong keywords, or they may have the wrong advertising message, or they may simply be unable to convert prospects into buyers.

To put it another way, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink if you've filled the trough with sewage instead of water. :-)

Case in point: I have an ex-client who had exclusive marketing rights to this (now) product. The contract from the mgf expired and it's popping up on G at 20 percent discounts over what he was selling it for.

He's not paying me anymore, but that doesn't stop him from calling and asking what to do. I've looked at it and he has little choice but to play some games with pricing. "Welcome to the transparency of the Internet."

His web site remains the top result on most search engines, but right under it are his competitors. "Can't we do something about that," he asked. Probably, I told him, but I don't work in those black arts.

kpaul

4:13 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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What's interesting is that USA Today (and Gannett in general) will be battling Google soon for national and local ad dollars. I think I know who's going to win, too...

-kpaul

Rugles

4:22 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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There is a drawback to Google SEO entering the mainstream, more competition as people wake up to SEO.

Also, I remember when it used to be a secretive skill in the shadows of the internet. I would try to explain SEO to people and there eyes would glaze over. It would seem to them that I was oh so smart and clever.
Oh well, so much for that.

Robino

4:25 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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There is a drawback to Google SEO entering the mainstream, more competition as people wake up to SEO.

And more demand!

SlyOldDog

4:30 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You need to be smarter than ever now. We have a competitor who has been trying to do SEO for 3 years and he keeps falling down because he is always behind the times and keeps on tripping the penalties.

After 3 years he still is not in the top 20 for any meaningful keyphrase.

Rugles

4:48 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>>And more demand!

That is true for those who only perform SEO work, of which there are many here. But, I am more concerned about my competition waking up and making me work harder for the great rankings I have for a few thousands keywords.

However, competition brings innovation.

whoisgregg

5:07 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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When I showed the paper to my boss, the first thing he said was "Advertising in Google is about to become more expensive."

The article made G advertising out to be the magic bullet of business success, IMHO.

werty

5:56 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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This is from todays USA Today as well:
[usatoday.com...]

An article about Local Search.

gopi

7:27 pm on Feb 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Co-owners Ken and Tom Carlton spent $200 a month to get an ad for their business to pop up when someone searched for ''roll forming,'' a process that turns metal into different shapes.

''Within days,'' says Ken Carlton, the ad ''generated millions and millions of dollars in sales. .

if its true this is biggest ROI i ever heard :)

KeywordROI

10:09 pm on Feb 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Indeed, that's the best ROI. 200$ a month divided by number of days and millions in sales.