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from two sites I have around 8(each) incoming links, let me elaborate.
from xyz.com i have 8 links.
1)homepage.html
2)page1.html
3)page2.html.......
This happens as my partner is having frame stucture which is kept for al page and mine is added at the bottom frame, which will be there on each page.
Can this be a reason for some penalty, specially after Florida shake-ups?
Thanks
Aji
I have a number of sites which all have multiple links directed at one site and it has not been penalized at all.
I don't think the site being linked to will suffer a penalty, though the other sites may. From my experience however there's no problem, just don't get involved with link farms.
Are you sure that, there is no penalty for incoming links. I want to make sure, even after florida.
Aji
Where you could run into trouble is if you interlink EXTENSIVELY between the sites.
Are you sure that, there is no penalty for incoming links. I want to make sure, even after florida.
I doubt that you get penalized for anything. Maybe the algo ranks you lower, but that can be fixed.
My experience is that footer spamming is 100% safe (which doesn't mean, that it works ;)
bottom frame, which will be there on each page.
If it's in a frame and doesn't change then it's just 1 link.
Also how can you really get any keyword density on a frameset page if there's no body at all (considering there's no noframes tag)?
My opinion - frames gotta go to the dustbin.
>I though frameset structure was considered spam to begin with.
Not by any search engine, directory, or surfer I ever met.
>In my view it gives you soooo much room for content duplication...
You might try to contemplate what kind of conceivable content could be duplicated with framesets but NOT easily duplicated with themes, CGI scripts, CSS, C++ programs, Javascript functions, .NET, or any of half a zillion other technologies found on every desktop. Granted, any webmaster too stupid to figure out any of those other ways of copying content shouldn't be allowed close to a keyboard, let alone a frameset. But the internet is a free-stupidity zone, and you may be able to find some such webmasters.
>Also how can you really get any keyword density on a frameset page if there's no body at all (considering there's no noframes tag)?
Artificial manipulation of keyword density IS considered spam: I think these days it is rather despised than feared by the search engines, since it's fairly easy to check for (if it ever gets to be a problem.)
The search engines have no theoretical or practical problem with frames at all. They can automatically spot the "jump.to" type spammers that open all their frames on some other domain (this might be where you got the impression that "framesets" are considered spam: they are used by low-tech spammers to do spamming redirection. But there were legitimate uses long before the spammers arrived). Search engines can either index words from all the frames in the main URL; or they can direct users immediately to the frameset source page (which in any half-competant frame design will javascript-or-some-such redirect to pull in the entire frameset.)
I liked frames: they were a very powerful tool for allowing webmasters to separate content and navigation. But these days, for nearly all purposes, CSS provides a better approach.
This, of course, doesn't mean that the less brain-damaged spammers aren't busily trying to find ways of abusing CSS to spam the search engines. And that doesn't make CSS spam: there will always be a difference between filet mignon and Hormel's processed beef by-products, even though they may come from the same animal. It's all in how the ingredients are used.
I see a lot of this where 8-10 PR6+ sites all link to each other from each page of the site to the home pages of the other 8-10 sites. When offered to be a part of this, I declined. Did I miss an opportunity? I have yet to see them penalized.
