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google update - archaic term

google update obsolete

         

deus777

10:33 pm on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think the google "dance" should officially be renamed to something like the google stomp or google maestrom or the google hurricane. dance implies something fun and playful whereas the google updates are now just nothing but chaos.

the image one should have is of an elephant stomping around in a tutu on an ocean of ants.

perhaps webmastes now know what if feels like to be in a martini shaker, every now and then google give it a vigorous shake to make sure nobody is clinging to the sides.

greenfrog

10:53 pm on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Given the geographic location of Google in San Francisco, California.

I vote for "EarthQuake" or "Quake".

Its definitely got to be something sudden -- violent -- and devastating.

:)

2oddSox

11:00 pm on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think the term 'dance' is quite appropriate. Think of it as a Tango. Complex moves, sometimes abrupt, sometimes subtle, sometimes boisterous and sometimes elegant. There are rules to be followed, and if one partner gets it wrong, there's normally a falling out.

2odd...

Stefan

11:16 pm on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The old Googledance ended with Dominic. Before that, for a couple of years, the dance was the shuffling of serps through the datacentres as the update happened. It was predictable, and fun...... you'd see the pages you'd got online, just in time for the last deepcrawl, appear bouncing in and out on google.com, (unless you knew to check the different datacentres... then you'd see it move across them over a few days).

Back late last spring, it all changed and there was no more dance, just the "rolling update", permanent everflux. Now, we're into a whole new realm of activity with florida... who knows if we're back to regular updates or just the occasional massive algo change, like now, then rolling updates again.

deus777

11:16 pm on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't agree, a tango implies cooperation. With google and serps there is no cooperation. In fact any partner dance implies cooperation.

Google updates are quakes not dances. The more google quakes the more it heads towards self destruction facing the inevitable truth that a link based serp strategy is subject to manipulation and hence self defeating.

You can not measure something without interfering with it... now who was it that said that again?

I like the term google quake. I am going to start using it.

markus007

11:19 pm on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Google Apocalypse

The end is near, you just never know for who lol.

bhartzer

11:21 pm on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I vote for keeping the Google Dance. If there's no Google Dance, then Google won't be able to entertain us once a year at the official Google Dance held every year in San Jose:

http://www.google.com/googledance2003/

rfgdxm1

11:24 pm on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>Google updates are quakes not dances. The more google quakes the more it heads towards self destruction facing the inevitable truth that a link based serp strategy is subject to manipulation and hence self defeating.

As is every other possible SERP ranking strategy subject to manipulation.

skipfactor

11:31 pm on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The old Googledance ended with Dominic. Before that, for a couple of years, the dance was the shuffling of serps through the datacentres as the update happened. It was predictable, and fun...... you'd see the pages you'd got online, just in time for the last deepcrawl, appear bouncing in and out on google.com, (unless you knew to check the different datacentres... then you'd see it move across them over a few days).

Ahhh...

google update - archaic term

It's not as romantic as Stefan described it but it is an 'old-fashioned' update:

- *minor* ranking shifts ;)
- backlinks updated & dancing
- PR updated & dancing

It's not a beautiful waltz but a mad stage dive. I'm missing those old rolling updates...

rfgdxm1

11:35 pm on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>It's not a beautiful waltz but a mad stage dive. I'm missing those old rolling updates...

I don't think that the continuous update era is over. My guess is that it is just every now and then Google has to do a traditional update to keep things working smooth.

Stefan

11:35 pm on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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This is not an update, it is an algo change. Some people are reporting pages showing in the serps that have been offline for many months. The same thing happened in Dominic... GG indicated that they prefer to use an older database when they "tweak". Updates occured, after a deepcrawl, when the new data was added.

For many sites, including mine, there has been no update... the freshtags and crawling pattern is the exact same as it was last week. There will probably be no deepcrawl, just the rolling update...

Imho, it shouldn't be update Florida, it should be Algo-change Florida.

<added>What the hec, call it an update... :-) </added>

hobbnet

11:40 pm on Nov 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I started a thread a long while back that tried to pin down what type of dance it was...Can't find the link now though...

AthlonInside

7:05 am on Nov 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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How about Google Thread Creator.

Since everytime it happens, it create the longested thread of all google forums.

Powdork

8:30 am on Nov 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You can not measure something without interfering with it... now who was it that said that again?
I believe it was a dude named Heisenberg. He was a man of principles.

georgeek

9:52 am on Nov 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You can not measure something without interfering with it... now who was it that said that again?

I believe it was a dude named Heisenberg. He was a man of principles.

What he actually said was "The more precisely the position is determined, the less precisely the momentum is known in this instant, and vice versa."

Although this relation can be expressed precisely in mathematical terms it is not so easy to express in simple words. One way to think about it is to imagine measuring the properties of a particle such as its mass, its velocity, and its position simultaneously. Heisenberg's uncertainty relation shows that the more precisely you measure one the less accurately you can know the others. This is because whenever you make a measurement you must disturb the system. In order to know something is there you must kind of bump into it in some way! It really only matters at the atomic level in the quantum mechanical world :)

satanclaus

3:04 pm on Nov 19, 2003 (gmt 0)




How about Google Thread Creator.
Since everytime it happens, it create the longested thread of all google forums.

No doubt. Everytime this happens I have to walk away from the message boards alot more often than usual

ronburk

7:38 pm on Nov 19, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Slam Dance