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Amy
I've got a site that's PR5 all through the site with 18 links showing - 14 of them are within the site. But there have been a couple of links added that just aren't being reflected yet by checking with link: - as a matter of fact, the PR of the interior pages went from PR4 to PR5 without any evidence of any links being added and does not reflect the fact that the PR on a couple of pages linking to the site have increased.
We just don't see the whole picture at any given time. PR can and does go up and down, so use this as an opportunity to try for some good higher PR links, Some people won't link to lower PR pages, so grab it in now. It's a good chance to build up some more.
<I know of 2 smaller sites PR 5 with 300 and 500 links each in other industries.>
One thing I've noticed, and this is purely observation, is that Google places more importance on links coming from different sites. For instance, 50 PR4 links coming from 50 different sites directly to my home page will count more than 50 PR4 links coming from 50 different pages all within my site, even though the latter still carries some weight. Let's say for a moment that we know this to be true.
When using the link: command in Google, it tends to show the incoming links of pages that have some significant PR. It used to be that the limit here was clearly PR4 and up, but that doesn't necessarily seem to be as solid of a line anymore.
If site A contains a home page with PR5 and many sub-pages with with PR4, and site B contains a home page with PR5 and few sub-pages with PR4, then site A will show more incoming links than site B when checking on Google simply because the lower ranking pages of site B do not appear in the results. But these excess pages, as mentioned in the first paragraph, carry very little weight.
If the results using the link: command for the two sites you mentioned above are populated mostly with those sites' internal pages, then this may explain why the toolbar PR is relatively the same even though the inbound links don't appear to be.
I'd agree with that for ranking, but not just for PageRank.
Amy, most sites get most of their PageRank from very few links. Even if a site has thousands of links, it's very likely that most of the PR comes from a handful.
I've seen PR8 on a five week old domain with just one link. That's not typical though. Normally a high PR domain is well known and therefore happens to have a lot of links, but the number of links aren't a factor as such.
PR for my site:
Index 5
products (full list of all products), about us, buy now 4
various products that have links repeated at the bottom of each page 4
various products with only a few links within the site are 3
also site is organized
widgets.com/index.htm
widgets.com/products.htm
widgets.com/widgets.htm
widgets.com/green-widgets.htm
widgets.com/gizmos.htm
widgets.com/blue-gizmos.htm
there aren't many layers, so links do not go too deep
Question:
When I try to get links should I skip sites with PR2 or lower or try to get as many links as possible (as long as it's not from a porno site)?
Amy
<When I try to get links should I skip sites with PR2 or lower or try to get as many links as possible (as long as it's not from a porno site)?>
You should try to get links from any sites that relate to yours in some way. Sites with PR2 are usually easy to get links from, and who knows what their PR will be a few months from now, or how much harder it may be to get a link on that site if their PR does increase.
I don't worry about a page's PR when asking them for a link.. I just get all of the links that I can as long as they have related content that is similar to mine.