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And if you look at profiles with personal homepages (rather than full-blown website/domains) linked from them, it is easy to see that the profile PR is the root of whatever PR the personal page has.
Hmm... maybe that's the catch. I am talking about editor "websites" that are in their profiles.
But, did they count links for algo ranking before? Currently, guestbook pages themselves show in the SERPs. However, links on guestbook pages are ignored for the algo. For a while, according to Googleguy, Google ignored guestbook links for ranking, but showed them with the link: command. Then, Google quit showing them with the link: command also. Possibly because people with guestbooks were complaining Google was encouraging spamming them.
This would tend to explain a lot. I had assumed that Google was able to do a successful crawl of the ODP. If Google only partially crawled the ODP, then backlinks you'd expect to be showing may not show.
Whoops ... looks like I jumped the gun.
Is that premature interpretation?
Which means that this is a very fresh copy. What I don't understand is why Google took so long? It just seems very un-Googly to me for Google to do such a crummy job keeping the directory updated. Also odd in that the Google advice for webmaster's page specifically recommends submitting to the ODP. Which means at the rate Google has been updating their directory, even if the webmaster lucks out and an editor reviews and adds their site in a days, it could be many moons before it shows in the Google directory. What this suggests to me is Google considers their directory to be a very low priority.
What this suggests to me is Google considers their directory to be a very low priority.
I agree, but it may also mean that priority is changing now. Regular updates of the RDF would be a nice addition.
Yep, didn't think about checking the cached date of the dmoz categoryies at google - thanks for the hint, rfg. Actually the three different categories i watch were indexed 10th July (before my sites were added). Your stickied example was 5th October. So fact is obviously: google didn't do a full crawl of the odp since months but a partial crawl of various categories.
The new sites (the ones that were first time found now by g through a crawl of the dmoz cats) are currently increasing their ranking from minute to minute. Still no category tag showing but the pr and all other factors obviously get computed step by step now - the pages move up and up.
The new copy is from the RDF dump of 2003-10-29.
That RDF dump includes all edits up until about 2003-10-25, and some edits from the next four days after that.
The RDF takes four days to compile. Each category has a "snapshot" taken in turn. So, if your category was the first to be indexed, then nothing after 2003-10-25 in that category, would have made it into the RDF. If your category was the last to be indexed, then some late edits all the way up to 2003-10-29 may be in that RDF file.
The directory-in has now reverted to the old version again.
Did anyone else see the wierdness last night, where directory-in just returned the single word ok (with no HTML tags at all) instead of a full page of HTML code? There was no Google content, just the single word ok. I have kept a screen dump of it.
Yea, but it was sporadic. If I refreshed the page it would display properly.
If, by Directory Tab you mean the Category Link that sometimes appears below a site listing in Google SERPS, this link indicating which directory category the site is in, then, for many sites, the Directory Tab already appeared in the SERPs back in July or August or so. However, that link was often pointing to either a category that did not include the site anywhere in the directory (certainly not in the indicated category), or, in some cases was pointing to a category that did not yet exist in the Google Directory at all. Google is just playing catchup now, and joining all the dots up, some 4 or 5 months later.
If you mean something else, then repost the question.
One of my sites which changed urls is now in the directory with the new URL, but the category button doesn't light up when I visit it...
I'm not majorly fussed about it - just wondering.
If DMOZ fell off the end of the earth tomorrow, I doubt it would have any real consequences.
Dave
Then why does Google have a directory at all? Obviously they see it as having value; although I doubt they think the value is very great. However, as the ODP is free, easy to make it profitable.
A few years ago directories had some value, now, with search results (in particular Google) being so much better, people no longer bother with them. Like I say, check your logs to see the facts.
Dave
No clues, really. I had about 70 listings and all but seven of them have been removed. It appears that some members of this forum who are associated with the ODP tried to remove them all but they failed. Perhaps they will do better next time around?
LOL, what a great job they do over at DMOZ :)
Dave
