Putting inbound links in hidden layers

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Putting inbound links in hidden layers

jamie_h

3:56 pm on Sep 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

I would like to be able to link to all my pages (about 20) from the home page. obviously to keep the pr as high as possible and to allow google to find the pages easily.

I dont want to make the site messy with lots of links at the bottom.....
i have had 2 ideas at overcoming this

1. (the honest way) create a site map and add that to the home page

My only problem with this is that it would drop 2pr rathr than 1

2. use hidden layers in the home page and link to all my pages. doing it this way will also allow me to target keywards as i can use targeted keywords as the link.

Problem is its naughty!

what would you guys/gals suggest?

Thanks in advance

Jamie

vincevincevince

4:35 pm on Sep 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'd suggest _not_ using hidden layers... all it takes is one competitor to find them, submit a spam report to Google, and you'd fail a hand check in an instant - bang PR0 penalised.

How about a multinode approach?

Index Page : Links to Node1 Node2 Node3
-- Node 1 : Links to Page1 Page2 Page3...
-- Node 2 : Links to Page4 Page5 Page6...
-- Node 3 : etc...

If you can group the nodes by some kind of theme, you will be able to utilise the nodes pages to your advantage - including a short amount of content about that theme makes for its own little PR smiley, and if you also include (reciprical) links to external sites, you'll have yourself a few little themed specialist directories with targeted PR.

plasma

4:55 pm on Sep 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

Why not using onMouseOver Menus in your navigation?
You'll have links to almost all pages on every page.

jamie_h

6:57 pm on Sep 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks for your time guys.

i hadnt thought about your aproach vincevincevince, Its sounds great... especially as its legit!

i'll keep you psoted!

Thanks again

Jamie

Fruit and Veg

7:17 pm on Sep 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

A link to a site map on every page, and then the site map links back to every page - too simple, or am I missing something? Works for me.

troi21

10:48 pm on Sep 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

There is a certain search engine optimisation company that uses hidden divs and comment tags to conceal links. There must be 50-70 websites within their network and they place links to about ten to twenty on every website with the anchor text in place. This seems to be working very well because the sites are riding high in the top five of the SERPS for weeks now. I have done a spam report but nothing has been done. Google might not be checking as much as you think.

shawn

12:28 am on Sep 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

There is a certain search engine optimisation company that uses hidden divs and comment tags to conceal links. There must be 50-70 websites within their network and they place links to about ten to twenty on every website with the anchor text in place. This seems to be working very well because the sites are riding high in the top five of the SERPS for weeks now. I have done a spam report but nothing has been done. Google might not be checking as much as you think.

I agree - I know of a certain web design company that uses the same tactic. They use a hidden layer to optimize and place links back their site to target most of the major cities.

So on this layer is about 30 links that look like this:

[company.com...]

Then that page has a redirect that sends you to the sites index.html.

Just clever or is it against Google TOS/submission guidelines?

troi21

3:28 am on Sep 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

seems dodgy to me.

it would be very difficult for Google to weed out sites like these without a hand check. I have seen several sites come into the top ten SERPs with several spamming tricks and leave weeks later but this SEO company has Google licked for now...

how can we compete when dodgy SEO's are becoming more and more clever?

chicagohh

4:56 am on Sep 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

how can we compete when dodgy SEO's are becoming more and more clever?

Sheesh!

It's called business 101. With that attitude you will NEVER beat them. In the brick and mortar world people play hardball all the time. Grab your sack and head for the batting cage.

Better yet, play softball and keep complaining.

greenfrog

5:34 am on Sep 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

I don't think that google will like the mouse over menu's too much.

shawn

5:50 am on Sep 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

Sheesh!
It's called business 101. With that attitude you will NEVER beat them. In the brick and mortar world people play hardball all the time. Grab your sack and head for the batting cage.
Better yet, play softball and keep complaining.

I agree - If your not looking for that edge you will eventaully fall behind. I am not saying you should convert your site into spam, however, it seems the world of "SEO" can walk that fine line.

troi21

9:36 am on Sep 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

-->Better yet, play softball and keep complaining.

Geez, you guys can be real harsh. Don't worry I play hardball. I have stuck around for months while spammy sites have threatened the SERPS and I am number one now and business is going great.

percentages

9:51 am on Sep 12, 2003 (gmt 0)

vincevincevince, gave some sound advice in #2.

There are many other ways to do it also, but I would avoid the off visible page CSS solutions. Today you probably won't suffer from those, but odds are in the future you will.

Squeekly clean is currently defined as using the "sparse" rules to your best advantage.