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Influence of separators

difference between ',' '&' and ' '

         

doc_z

10:23 am on Jul 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Is someone seeing differences in the ranking using ',' '&' or ' '?

For example, if you have a page with the following content:

'We are selling the following products: '
'product1, product2, product3, product4'
OR 'product1 & product2 & product3 & product4'
OR 'product1 product2 product3 product4' (e.g. seperated by different rows of a table)

Is there a difference in the ranking when searching for a single product name (e.g. product1)?
Is someone else seeing influences of different separators?

doc_z

7:17 am on Jul 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Nobody who have experience with this or did research on this topic?

ciml

4:51 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm sure that "product1, product2" or even "product1 , product2" counts as "product1 product2" does, but & is treated as a word so "product1 & product2" is different.

andrewrab

5:52 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes... I have mucho experience on this (and this subject keeps coming up!)...

We've been using dlls to convert strings for some time (e.g. '&' to '_a_', '=' to '_e_' and, though Google apparently is doing much better spidering traditional query strings, I can tell you that what what we do gets sites spidered with 1,000s of pages...

So while they are spidering traditional query strings better now, to me, it's worth it to alter... frankly, I simply wouldn't use traditional after seeing how well ours are doing... besides, I think it will always have some issues with multiple parametrs in the query string (e.g. 5 instances of &, etc.).

doc_z

7:11 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ciml,

you are right: '&' is treated as a word. Therefore 'product1 & product2' is different compared to the other cases. However, do you know that a comma doesn't have any influence for the ranking or do you just expect this?

Dolemite

9:17 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes... I have mucho experience on this (and this subject keeps coming up!)...

We've been using dlls to convert strings for some time (e.g. '&' to '_a_', '=' to '_e_' and, though Google apparently is doing much better spidering traditional query strings, I can tell you that what what we do gets sites spidered with 1,000s of pages...

So while they are spidering traditional query strings better now, to me, it's worth it to alter... frankly, I simply wouldn't use traditional after seeing how well ours are doing... besides, I think it will always have some issues with multiple parametrs in the query string (e.g. 5 instances of &, etc.).

I'm pretty sure the topic is on-page text, not URLs. ;)

andrewrab

9:39 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ooops... sorry!

alxdean

10:59 pm on Jul 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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not sure if the proximity algo will make a difference between word1,word2 and word1 , word2.
But one thing I have noticed, is that word1¦word2 is treated like word1 word2, which comes in handy if you want to keep the two words together in terms of search phrase but want to differentiate them graphically.

ciml

6:05 pm on Aug 1, 2003 (gmt 0)

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doc_z:
> do you know that a comma doesn't have any influence for the ranking or do you just expect this?

I now worry if my Google comma tests were 100% objective, but I'm pretty sure that commas don't count.