Google and Shared Borders

good or bad - need some help

[boknows]

Quick question about shared boarders (frontpage function) Does anyone know if google does good with shared borders?

Most of my links are on the borders and not on the page.

Thanks. any help much appreciated.

[jimbeetle]

Hi boknows,

Welcome to Webmaster World [webmasterworld.com].

Frontpage saves the page as a whole, including shared borders, any included pages and any substitutions, so the page that is served includes everything, just like any other page.

As long as your links are readable by Google, i.e., straight html, drop-down box, etc., it will have no problem following the links.

Jim

[rogerd]

I haven't used FP much in ages except for maintenance purposes, but I'd recommend avoiding any funky java applet hover buttons. These have tons of bloated code and may not be spiderable. If you go with a typical left column navbar (with no corrective measures), all the code bloat will be ahead of your page text, too.

[drbrain]

Or just switch to CSS-based hover effects. Very lightweight.

[MotherE]

boknows,

I've used Front Page's shared borders with links in a border and it had no problem with Google.

If you look at the source of the page through your browser when it's on the WWW, the only thing a page with borders has that is different than a page without borders is a meta tag like this:

<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="l, default">

and this comment <!--msnavigation-->.

[uspntech]

Hi, rogerd makes a point you should consider about left side navigation. Any code place there or at the top border will show up first in the source code that Google grabs, moving your main content down the page. You should consider using very light (little code) top border and set your navigation in the right border.

You will typically rank much higher keeping your content near the top of the source code.

[aroach]

When I got rid of all my FP junk like themes and shared borders and went to straight SSI and CSS my SERP rankings and PR both went way up the next index. Coincidence? I doubt it.

I still use FP but now I open my pages in Notepad after they are finished and fix all the weird stuff it does so that it will validate. No way is an FP page going to get through the validator at W3C without some tweaking.

[TheDave]

Yeah, while I still use frontpage I've abandoned most of its features and use it as a simple html editor/previewer. The shared borders are ok, but like others have said, the java effects they use are a waste of time, stick to simple text or graphic buttons.

Oh, and my page validates at W3C with no post-frontpage tweaking.

[aroach]

Oh, and my page validates at W3C with no post-frontpage tweaking.

Really? Which version of FP? I've got FP2000 and it drops all the closing paragraph tags, etc. I've never had a page not need fixing. Maybe I need to upgrade.