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Is there a way to see the deep-cache

instead of fresh-cache?

         

AthlonInside

12:15 pm on May 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My sites seems to showing the fresh cache whenever I click on the cache link. I want to see the cache from the deep crawl instead, is that possible?

Yidaki

12:23 pm on May 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sorry, i don't have a answer for your question but a funny business idea related to it: maybe google could start a new subscription service to let people list different, historical cached copies of their pages - like a payed archive.org. ;)

However, why do you want to see your "old" cached version?

WebWalla

12:25 pm on May 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just search for your domain name (e.g. search for example.com) and then click on the cache.

AthlonInside

12:35 pm on May 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yidaki,
To know exactly Google is using which version of the page.

Webwalla,
Your way doesn't work because it will still display the new cache.

WebWalla

12:37 pm on May 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes you're right - sorry, had always worked for me before.

jrobbio

12:42 pm on May 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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As someone else mentioned on another thread, they have used archive.org as proof of copyright ownership or origninal content. This could work in the same way.

Yidaki

12:43 pm on May 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>To know exactly Google is using which version of the page.

Since you confirmed that the version they use is the "fresh crawl version", you allready know it quite exactly ... if you include in your page code the time and date of the moment the page has been requested by googlebot, you'll know it even more exactly. Or did i miss your point?

AthlonInside

1:06 pm on May 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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From my experience, and from what is shown in the description of the listing, it shows contents from the deep cache. This prove that even if the cache is fresh, the algo still put a heavy weight on the original deep cache for ranking.

I want to know what version of my file which Google get from the deep crawl.

Yidaki

1:23 pm on May 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>I want to know what version of my file which Google get from the deep crawl.

Did you look into your log analyzes? You should be able to see which version was cached during the deep crawl. User Agent and freshbot vs. deepbot tracking is explained at the Googlebot: Deepbot and Freshbot FAQ and Information [webmasterworld.com].

I admit, this doesn't explain you exactly which version has been cached by deepbot or which version your current rankings are based on (could be even a different version). However, i wouldn't stress to much until there's at least one month over ... i wouldn't change optimization earlier than six weeks after a deep crawl ... as long as there's no emergency (in case you did something seriously wrong).

AthlonInside

1:35 pm on May 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I did an overall web design! And there are pages in the old version but the main page seems to be the new version.

deep crawl came on 15th. I update my site on around 16/17th. And deep crawl CAME again on 26th for some files including my main page.

Because the deep bot also crawl my non-www version of site, so I really can't find out in the log if the bot is crawling www.mysite.com or mysite.com for certain files. I gave many files which has been double crawled.

Yidaki

1:45 pm on May 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>crawling www.mysite.com or mysite.com for certain files.

Hmmm. Hmmm? As long as the non www version does a simple redirect to the www version or both share the same root and in case you didn't doublicate your pages, there's only one page crawled per domain - which would be the same for both and easy to track. I fear i don't get it ... :/

ciml

1:58 pm on May 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Back when Fresh listings first started, it was very useful to be able to see the page as Google has it in the last full update. It was the easiest way to see Google's idea of the link map when they calculated PageRank.

It would be nice to find a 'deep cache' Easter egg, but I'm not sure that Google is very keen to make it so easy for us to peek into their data.