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PR Question

How does this add up?

         

dinnerware

5:09 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If I am receiving a link from a PR5 site with 60 links on it and mine is #50 what PR would I receive? I realize the PR is minimal passed to me but is there a way to guess at what it could be?

mat

5:13 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The probable answer is no, not really. However, I think I can (quite) safely say that it doesn't really matter whether your link is numer 1 or number 50.
The page has a fixed amount of PR to trickle down, at that is simply divided between all outgoing links.
It's unlikely to give you much of a boost, but a link is a link.

takagi

5:18 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The location of the link is not important (first, last, middle) unless the file is bigger than 101 kbyte which is quite rare. Google ignores all the data after 101 kbyte, so a link at the end could be lost. But for a normal link page that is no problem.

Sharing a link with 60 others, could result in a drop by 2 (5 --> 3). The PR displayed in the toolbar is a whole number, internally it can be a high or a low PR5.

More important is, if the link is a real one, or one through a redirect or some trick with JavaScript or so. In the last case, no PR is transferred.

dinnerware

5:25 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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OK location is not important. But basically because of the other links I am receiving almost 0 PR transfer? I am not 100% sure how to calculate the PR transfered.

mat

5:28 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am not 100% sure how to calculate the PR transfered.

Quite simply, you can't.

takagi

5:30 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If your homepage already has a PR7, than it is just another link (so it still counts; a link is a link). If the site is new, and has only a PR1, then this new link is very welcome.

wackmaster

5:30 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)



tagaki,

actually, I thought that G ignores LINKS after #100, not code after 100kb...wrong?

takagi

5:33 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Hi wackmaster,

> Wrong?

Yes. This number of 100 links is only a guideline.

wackmaster

5:34 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)



tagaki,

learn something new every day...especially in here...thanks! ;-)

takagi

5:42 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



You're welcome.

See message 11 in 100 link limit problem - Many pages with well over over this limit [webmasterworld.com] where GoogleGuy wrote:

100 links is a good soft limit, but 100K is a hard limit. All pages should be shorted than that.

ciml

8:37 pm on May 14, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes, 100KB is a simple cut-off. Anything after (including links) doesn't get indexed.

The 100 link thing is different. There's some threshold (maybe 100), beyond which all of those links get less PR than the normal ((1-d) rawPR / numlinks).

PR5 site with 60 links on it

If it's a PR5 page with 60 links on it, then according to my figures you get PR3 or PR4 from it, depending on how high the PR5 is. Many people have figures that would indicate a greater loss.

wackmaster

7:24 pm on May 12, 2003 (gmt 0)



ciml, thanks!

Google site says (as I'm sure you know):
Design and Content Guidelines:
*Offer a site map to your users with links that point to the important parts of your site. If the site map is larger than 100 or so links, you may want to break the site map into separate pages.
*Keep the links on a given page to a reasonable number (fewer than 100).

Given this guideline, plus GG's comment as pointed out by tagaki above, do we think that Google just reduces the importance of the links it sees that are beyond link #100 on a page, but may still index them (assuming the page content remains beneath 100K)?