PR rating on pages other than initial

pr

[ogletree]

Does anybody have a webpage that has a higher PR than the initial page that is hit when domain.com is typed in. What I mean by initial is default.whatever or index.whatever. My initial page is default.asp but it just redirects to another.

I found that the page that it redirects to has a PR0 but if I put a text file with the word text in it into my default.asp file instead of the normal one I get of PR1.

My theory is that Google only gives PR to initial pages as defined above and gives a PR-1 to each page below it and PR-2 to each directory below that. If you type in domain.com/default.whatever and you get a PR5 then if you type in domain.com//default.whatever. You will get a PR4 and so on. I am asking everybody that has a link to my site to change it to point directly to the redirected page. I was wondering if that would even help its PR rating. That is why I want to know if it is possible to have a non default page to have a higher PR than its default page.

[killroy]

I'm afraid you have it completely wrong. Please check out the many posts in the pagerank algorithm.

The URL is completely irrelevant to PR. Google simply treats it as string.

The toolbar ESTIMATES PR as PR-1 for each sub dir for pages that it doesn't have PR for, but as such that has NO meaning whatsoever and no effect in the serps.

PR only depends on linking. there is no such thing as directories in URLs. URLs are a naming convention, independent of the filesystems of particular operating systems.

SN

[ogletree]

Everything I have read says that all things being equal a higher PR rating will be higher in the serps. Still I want somebody to point to me a url that has a higher rating than it's initial page or previous page. I have seen several sites that have a lower rating domain.com/ than domain.com/default.asp. The google bar will do a PR-1 for each item after the .com/ including page.html. every place that has domain.com/dir/page.html has a -1 lower PR than just domain.com/dir/ that goes to the same place.

[vincevincevince]

if you change the pre-redirect page to a 301 redirection.... then you will transfer the PR ;)

[swerve]

Everything I have read says that all things being equal a higher PR rating will be higher in the serps.

This is true (although in practice, 'all things' are never equal)

Still I want somebody to point to me a url that has a higher rating than it's initial page or previous page. I have seen several sites that have a lower rating domain.com/ than domain.com/default.asp.

I am not sure if this is exactly what you mean but you may want to read message 22 of this thread [webmasterworld.com].

The google bar will do a PR-1 for each item after the .com/ including page.html. every place that has domain.com/dir/page.html has a -1 lower PR than just domain.com/dir/ that goes to the same place.

Yes, the toolbar does do this. As Killroy said, these are just estimates, not real PR.

[ogletree]

I understand that it is not real PR. I did find a site that 2 pages with the same amount of slashes from the same site that had different PR ratings. The initial page was PR6 but one page had a PR4 and the other had a PR3. So it was not guessing on one of them but it was on the other. I still think the toolbar gives a PR based on the initial page and how far back you are from it unless the real PR is more than the guessed PR.

I want somebody to prove to me that you can have a higher PR on a page that is not your initial page on that domain.

[ogletree]

well I just found an example. webmasterworld.com has a PR7 and if you click on google news it has a PR7. I guess a lot of people link to webmasterworld.com/forum3/. Acording to the toolbar guess it should be a PR6. If you go to any other place on webmasterworld.com that has only one thing after the .com/ you will get a PR6. The google forum is the only place that gets the PR7.

[heini]

This will be hard to find for two reasons:
- the vast majority of external links to a site go to the domain name, without a page specified
- the vast majority of sites has more internal links to the "home"page than any other page.

[edited by: heini at 9:48 pm (utc) on April 22, 2003]

[killroy]

well my site is PR 6, and so are some of the main pages. I also ahve PR 5 lpages that are theoretically3 or 4 directories deep, but are linked straight from teh home page.

Furthermore it was I think for the flash plug-ins where it is required to link to the /about.html page whitch has a PR higher then the root page, but I'm not certrain whitch one it was...

SN

[ogletree]

Yall answered my questions. I just wanted to make sure that if I did a major campaign to get people to link to my front page and not the www.domain.com. I am sure that will be a good thing if I can get them to do it. I have to do this since the content manangement system that forces this on me.