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* All website pages are listed in the new Google index so I guess it is not banned. Home page has a PR4.
Since I was hired to promote the website, I managed to get more than 25 quality backlinks since October 2002 - It is now listed in:
* Google Directory
* DMOZ Directory (of course)
* Yahoo! Directory (Paid link - ouch!)
+ 20 quality websites already listed in Google and most with very good PR were added since January
* ALL these backlinks have been added AFTER my client bought the domain but BEFORE the last Google crawl (before late Feb).
* ALL backlinks include appropriate anchor text
* This is company selling an adult service - The previous website using the domain was an adult website so I don't see a problem with people being offended trying to get the old website etc.
* The domain was bought because It's a very descriptive name ant NOT for backlinks, there was only 1 backlink at that time and we did not care about it anyway.
Last update, only 2 backlinks were showing: The Yahoo! one and the "old" one (the one which was there when client bought the domain)
This update: NO MORE backlinks, not a single one...
Yahoo: Gone
Google Directory: Not showing
(category is showing under the listing)
I checked on www2, www3 - Nothing.. and SERP results are awful when compared to competitors with no PR at all.
And right now, LOTS of my client's competitors are enjoying first positions on almost all SERP's simply by spamming with expired domains, unrelated with the Adult industry. This is STILL working very well obviously.
And now she will ask me for sure WHY spammers get first positions while I can't get her reasonablly good rankings with very good backlinks and appropriate content (no hidden links and crap like this on the website for sure)
I do website promotion since a couple of years in many very competitive fields (web hosting etc) and It's the first time
i see this problem.
Anyone here experiencing similar problems with the Expired Domains Filter?
I know nothing at all of the adult site business, our clients are in traditional industries. However, it does seem weird to me too. I assume you do have some keywords and keyphrases in the most important pages of the site.
And your title tags?
Maybe somebody here has some experience in adult sites?
But I'm still shaking my head on it
You are not alone. It seems all we can do is wait & keep our fingers crossed.
I have indexed many sites (non adult) before with very good results in Google - Is there a different set of rules for Adult Industry related sites?
I think you have done enough, and please be patient. Maybe add more relevant and irrelevant backlinks for this site will be better! More links more help! More relevant links more help! Right?!
Have you got any idea what you are talking about? Google is blacklisting any backlinks to expired domains that have been redeveloped, even if that expired domain had never been developed before and had zero backlinks at the time it was purchased by the new webmaster.
Any person who gets a backlink to a redeveloped expired domain is not only wasting their time but they are actually hurting themselves because that link will be blacklisted and under the current system will never become a legitimate link.
Can you work out how google intends to stop spamming of its results by ignoring links that have been created AFTER an expired domain has been purchased and redeveloped?
[edited by: WebGuerrilla at 6:05 am (utc) on April 12, 2003]
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What is the world's oldest profession again? ;)
BTW I decided to move on and asked the client to buy a new domain - We're both sick and tired of this "wait for the next update" thing. Just wanna be sure we're building on a solid ground even if she lost big money because of this..
What you're thinking of is a subset of that. >;->
archive.org -- but, there's no guarantee that'll it'll be there, so you can still get screwed by the expired domain filter...I am.
What I can see from archive.org is that sometime between Dec 2000 and Feb 2001, the domain changed hands but the links remained. Perhaps Google does not go back that far in time.
I know I am not supposed to get into specifics but I have been following this site for the last 9 months because I fail to comprehend how it has slipped through Google's algo.
Perhaps I don't understand what expired domains are about or what Google meant by dropping expired domains from the index. But this particular site benefits from links built up by the previous owner, none of which are relevant to the site as it stands today.
Stay away from expired domains!
Well that is great advice for those few webmasters from around the world who actually frequent this forum and so would be lucky enough to become aware of it.
The penalty is applied to all expired domains names, even those that have never had a valid DNS attached to them.
How exactly does google suppose a webmaster can tell whether a domain name has been owned before and has subsequently expired?
[edited by: WebGuerrilla at 6:07 am (utc) on April 12, 2003]
Same here. I am waiting for the 2 years that I have paid to run out and drop it completely.
Even after update cassandra, PR0, no position at all, not a single visit for days other than those visitors of the old site owner - my poor hobby site.
It seems to affect those newly expired domains, my other expired domains before 2002 are not affected at all.
I had some PR0s last time, even though I'd gotten more links since expiry/renewal. OK, I thought, I'll carry on any acquired some more backlinks. Still PR0.
Some completely NEW domains I've done the same to, and I'm seeing reasonable PR coming through.
Worst of all, one site which was an expired domain slipped from a PR5 to a PR2 last time, and is now a PR0.
OK, I understand and even agree with what Google is trying to achieve, but I really don't think the tool is working. However, Google won't go into the mechanics of it so we can't even try to troubleshoot it.
Google is not done implementing the filter. It will take a couple more months, and then all the new links since the time that you registered your domain will apply again.
[webmasterworld.com...]
And in particular check out message #67 in this thread
[webmasterworld.com...]
You are SOL for a few months, but things should straighten out after that.
Wow, I don't think a single person who has posted on this thread has even taken the time to do a site search on the issue.
No, I didn't need to - I already read about the few months deal. I just don't think it's fair to punish innocent webmasters in the meantime. Sure, those of us who read here (a very small percentage of webmasters) can do a reinclusion request, but how does that help thousands of others who thought they came up with a great name and worked really hard on the domain for months only to suddenly get a PR0?
The technical term for these webmasters is that they are collateral damage. Google, like life, is not fair.
