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Why do merchants pitch to countries they can't sell to?

         

vik_c

9:05 pm on Feb 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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When I search for insurance or any other search term that is expensive, I get ads meant for US visitors. I'm in India and can't use any US insurance offers I'm shown. The same holds true for mutual funds and debt consolidation ads. Yet when I click on any of these ads, the advertiser is poorer by a few dollars in a single click.

Why is it that most advertisers don't exclude countries that they don't sell to, from their campaigns. It drives up costs at both ends. If I'm selling something like insurance or mutual funds in my country I have to outbid webmasters from across the world which is ridiculous. We're affecting our interests adversely while making Google and many other web sites richer. You'll find stock market related message boards focussed only on Indian stocks carrying ads for Dow Jones and NASDAQ. Such advertising would mean a near zero ROI for the advertiser. I'm sure Google would rather get richer while giving its advertisers some good ROI. What makes most webmasters throw away so much money or am I missing something here?

jtara

9:29 pm on Feb 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I don't think it's the case that most advertisers choose to advertise in places where they are unlikely to make sales.

The default when placing an ad for a U.S. advertiser is a U.S.-targeted ad. I would assume this is similar (perhaps regional, though?) in other parts of the world.

I think the problem is more likely that IP-address based geolocation is an inexact science.

Google may not know that your ISP's IP addresses are associated with India.

In some cases, ISPs or companies may have their own private connections to the Internet that terminate in the U.S. Or, U.S.-based international corporations or ISPs make use blocks of IP addresses for their foreign operations. Google would think that these are in the U.S.

It's just a horrible, inexact technology that is taking educated (but not TOO educated) guesses.

In fact, there is some provision in the DNS system for specifying location, but it's seldom used, and so would be even less reliable than IP-block based guessing.

ronmcd

10:54 pm on Feb 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Im in UK and my isp is uk, and the adwords ads shown are definitely being correctly targetted by google. But I agree with vik_c that if I search for something generic like insurance I get some ads for US companies. Im pretty sure its affiliates who are wasting their money because they dont know better.

Sometimes its really obvious and seems to happen with clickbank products in particular, the US results show a US specific product with a well written ad bid into the blue against stiff competition by an experienced affiliate; in the UK a different affiliate is promoting the same product at a low cpc and with a poorly written ad, wasting his money. That affiliate wont be making his fortune anytime soon.

sniffer

5:12 am on Feb 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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maybe they're just lazy :/

skippy

5:33 am on Feb 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It is a technique used to keep a poor preforming ad alive. The idea is that they sacrifice a few clicks in the international area to booster click thru rate. It is not dissimilar to having more then one ad text.

Scruffy

7:48 am on Feb 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I've visited the USA on business many times.
It's a really insular country. Many Americans are unaware of the outside world and I should think a good number of US companies don't realise the internet is not entirely 'home turf'.

One time, on hearing that I was from the UK, a guy asked me 'Gee, Do they have McDonalds in the UK?'

Ishvec

3:23 pm on Feb 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Scruffy,

I tottaly agree with you.

On the other hand, itīs also true, and Iīve personally observed many cases like this, Iīve seem many Adwords SEM who are not quite familiar with the usage of Adwords, and up to this day, they still donīt know they can target Ad appearance by countries, locally, etc.

Best Regards,
Ishvec.

poster_boy

3:37 pm on Feb 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The default setting when I upload keywords is "All Countries" - so I see it as a common and easily excused mistake.

Not to mention that insurance or mutual fund firms are largely offline firms who have made the leap to online marketing & are still finding their way.

jtara

5:10 pm on Feb 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The default setting when I upload keywords is "All Countries"

I don't quite understand this. There is no country setting required to upload keywords. This setting is part of the campaign settings.

What country are you in? This defaults to "U.S. only" for me. I am in the U.S. I would have to change the setting from the default to select "All Countries".

Since you mentioned "upload", perhaps you are using some software to access Adwords (not the web interface?) and perhaps this has different default settings.

poster_boy

5:27 pm on Feb 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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A bit off-topic - but, yes I was referring to uploading new campaigns via bulk sheet via my Adwords rep.

The default for these uploads, for me, is "All Countries."