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click charges

can someone click on same keyword ad twice

         

wolfgang

10:16 pm on Apr 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

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and then do we still get charged twice? Or, does it have to be a different keyword to get a second charge? Thanks.

nyet

1:50 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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you get charged everytime the ad is clicked. Even if it is the same user. Sadly some users navigate bu adwords ad. I have seen 8, 9 10 clicks from legitimate users on the same ad. It bugs me, but that is the way it is.

Rollo

4:05 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've noticed a drop in freebie seekers clicking by including metion of price in the text.

Also, you might turn off the campaign during non business hours (whatever those might befor your product or service) as well as limiting the geo-avalability.

limitup

5:21 pm on Apr 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Huh? If the same person clicks on your ad 10 times you don't get charged for 10 clicks.

chucksoda

1:00 am on Apr 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I hope google is at least tracking clicks by ip address. I wonder though, if my competition has a dial up service they could log on and off and recieve new ip address each time, click on my ads and cost me money?

Off topic, I've seen the page that displays what the other ads are paying per click. Does anyone remember how to get to that page? Am I clear? I've looked all over and I know I seen it before, but can't find it now.....

paleolith

9:35 pm on Apr 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Tracking by IP address will not work. It is common for many independent computers to reach the Internet through the same IP address, via a method known as NAT. NAT is the way in which home and office routers share not only an Internet connection but also an IP address. In some cases there could be tens of thousands of computers at the same global IP address browsing the web simultaneously. (A local network behind a NAT can have tens of millions of computers, but other issues would prevent them from all browsing the web at the same time.)

Google clearly says that it attempts to prevent multiple charges for duplicate clicks. It doesn't say how AFAIK. However, I know that I see cookies on my computer related to AdWords ads I've clicked on, so tracking clicks by cookies is obviously one method, very likely the main one.

But Google doesn't require that the user activate cookies. So do you get multicharged for no-cookie users who multiclick? I find no answer, but it they are on the ball, they will assume that no-cookie users multiclick at the same rate as cookie-enabled users, and reduce the count by the same percent.

I suspect that no-cookie multiclick users are very few. Web browsers have cookies enabled by default, so for the most part only sophisticated users will disable them. And sophisticated users are much less likely to multiclick on ads.

Edward

nyet

9:52 pm on Apr 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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you most definately get charged for multiple clicks by the same user (however it is determined). I have spoken to AW support and asked this precise question.

They do not necessarily consider all multiple clicks by the same user as fraud clicks.

I have seen one user click 8, 10, 20, times (I know same user from my own tracking cookie) Google would not refund clicks like that automatically.

Whatever their criteria or process is a secret, as it has to be.

inferno

1:11 am on Apr 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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yeah, i have recieved ctr of over 200% before, basically same guy clicks on your ad twice or more, like click, back, click back click back, and its using the cahced page for the back.

inferno

1:12 am on Apr 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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sorry if my messages arent reading real well, been doing landscaping around my house for the last 14 hours, my arms and hands feel like jello :-P

gamb

5:08 pm on Apr 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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this is one of their big scams. If you get clicked 10 times in 5 minutes, you might not get charged. If you get clicked 10 times in 8 hours, you will get charged for every single click. Imagine a competitor doing that every day?

limitup

5:55 pm on Apr 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Every time they click on your link it increases your CTR and decreases theirs (unless they pause their ad right before they click, every time, which is probably more effort than it's worth). In the end it's probably a wash and not worth worrying about ...

inferno

6:23 pm on Apr 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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it is if you pay 2 dollars a click, 2 dollars a click times 10 per day is 20 dollars a day, times 365 days a year is $7,300 dollars in wasted clicks, if you have 3 competitors who does just this every day that 21,900 dollars a year you are wasting.

Think about that.

ddogg

6:33 pm on Apr 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I notice a lot of people actually click twice. They will click on the ad, go back, probably click on some others, then go back and click on mine again. I'm not sure if I'm getting charged twice, but I know this is a very common way for the average user to surf so I hope Google isn't trying to screw us here..

gamb

6:38 pm on Apr 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The worst thing that can happen to you is to get dumb users, who don't bookmark your site and who use your adwords ad as a bookmark. happens a lot in some industries.

wolfgang

6:40 pm on Apr 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Two clicks...two charges, even if it is the exact same ad for the exact same keyword. Confirmed by Google themselves.

christh

11:57 pm on Apr 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I looked at the network click stats (not adwords stats) for one of my merchants early yesterday morning, and was shocked to see 255 clicks had already registered, and no sales (at this time of the morning I'm lucky to have had a single click)

I checked my adwords stats to see if they'd been counted, but fortunately it seemed those 255 clicks had not been counted by AdWords. Wonder if that competitor helped raise my Adrank with his/her mindless fraudulent clicks :)

gamb

2:34 pm on Apr 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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if they were smart ;) they would simply click 5 times a day every day for a month, not 200 times in a day!