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Can I purchase *last* spot?

Minimum CPC to stay on first result page?

         

brycen

11:57 pm on Feb 9, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I'm cheap.

I'm ok with spot #10, or #7. In fact I don't care so much about spot #1. Is there a way I can bid for last spot? I neither want to pay a premimum for a high ranking, nor drop below #10.

How do I win last spot? I've got a campaign with competitive keywords. High ranking is far too expensive. But when I drop my CPC I often find my "Avg. Pos." drops to 18... or 30.

edit_g

10:19 am on Feb 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



1. Write better and better ads
2. Buy bid management software
3. Watch it like a hawk
4. Bid $10 cents wherever there are more than 1 but less than 9 advertisers ;)

AdWordsAdvisor

6:44 pm on Feb 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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How do I win last spot?

I wanted to add a bit to what edit_g posted:

Since position is a function of both Max CPC and CTR, brycen, there is not a way to guarantee a particular position. Also, your position is very likely to fluctuate as the competitive landscape changes.

So, to land yourself in a particular range of positions (say the last three ads on the first page), it really boils down to 'experimenting' and monitoring - as edit_g has said.

AWA

pmkpmk

11:19 pm on Feb 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I often heard it rumored here, that #2 is actually better than #1, especially if #1 is in landscape format (in which case sometimes #3 is told to be the best spot).

Are there any statistics on this? Is there a direct connection between position and CTR?

For some more popular keywords, I often see eBay and/or Amazon on the last positions, and even with the minimum CPC I'm still above them. Don't they get any clicks at all? And if so, why are they not disabled?

dave741

12:20 am on Feb 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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pmkpmk

I did not see any kind of GENERAL statistics, so I played with my own numbers.

I have analyzed more than 64 000 rows in excel:
One row contained:
Date, Keyword, Impressions, Clicks, Avg Position (there were no ROI info).

A lot of kw, different clients, different dates etc. Not enough data for positions >=6. The data also includes some words on premium positions.

Intervals:
<1,2) means kw with 1 <= Avg Position < 2

CTR for the words with more than 5 impressions (the first column), 50 impressions (the second column) a day:
<1,2) 3,254 3,508
<2,3) 2,712 2,805
<3,4) 1,960 1,931
<4,5) 1,578 1,513
<5,6) 1,578 1,503
<6,7) 1,508 1,463
<7,8) 1,376 1,022

Exact positions
For example 2 means kw Avg Position = 2
CTR for the words with more than 5 impressions (the first column), 50 impressions (the second column) a day:
1,1 2,803 3,077
2 2,847 3,111
3 1,910 1,971
4 1,677 1,607
5 1,588 1,635
6 1,553 1,509
7 0,924 1,364

Which GENERAL conclusions can we do from these numbers?

Try to find out some and write it here ...