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How will subdomains be treated w/ the new Affiliate Policy?

subdomain.example.com

         

PeteM

5:54 pm on Jan 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm already starting to see adwords for affiliates using subdomains of "amazon", presumably to add some credibility to their sites. I thought this was against the amazon TOS but I can't find it on the amazon site.

Any thoughts?

FromRocky

6:04 pm on Jan 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I think it is impossible for you to have www.amazon.myhumbleddomain.com in the first place unless someone shows I'm wrong. To have www.amazon.myhumbleddomain.com, you have to register for both www.amazon.com and myhumbleddomain.com. Amazon is the only one who can do that.

jim2003

6:07 pm on Jan 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hello,

From the Amazon TOS:

Are there any restrictions regarding my Web site's URL?

No one can participate in the Associates Program whose URL contains the word "amazon" or any misspelling of the word "amazon," such as "amzaon." Such use violates Amazon.com's trademark, proprietary, and other rights. In addition, we do not allow Associates to use Web sites whose names violate of the rights of third parties.

available from the associates website under

Help>Appropriate Conduct

Regards,

The TOS seems to clearly say URL, not domain, so the examples you posted seem inconsistent with the TOS.

PeteM

6:07 pm on Jan 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Nope, AFAIK you can register subdomains in whatever name you want.

bakedjake

6:08 pm on Jan 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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you have to register for both www.amazon.com and myhumbleddomain.com

You're wrong.

Subdomains are assigned by the domain's authoritative name server.

So, amazon.humbledomain.com and www.amazon.humbledomain.com could be set up by the dns administrator of humbledomain.com.

PeteM

6:18 pm on Jan 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Mmmm, I don't like cheats. Friendly email to the offending merchant or email to Amazon?

FromRocky

6:24 pm on Jan 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thnx, for pointing it out. I've learnt something today.

patient2all

8:07 pm on Jan 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Are subdomains technically part of the URL? I agree Amazon is a little vague there though I would never push it with them.

I use many, many subdomains in front of my domains, but never with the intention to mislead. I just want to give an idea of what the site will be about.

2004olympics.humbledomain.com
dieting.humbledomain.com
paris-hilton.humbledomain.com

are all fine by my personal code.

Using a trademarked term or the name of another company/entity would not be something I could sleep easily doing. Now that technique come to be identified as a common phishing lure anyway:

citibank-customer-service.junkdomain.ro

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However, I have always used folders in my display URLs that identified the affiliate program if I thought it would lend credibility.

humbledomain.com/amazon
humbledomain.com/seinfeld

has been my mainstay for some time and I see no problem in doing that.

patient2all

moltar

8:14 pm on Jan 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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URL stands for Uniform Resource Locator. And yes, the domain is a part of it.

If I tell you, "check out this site, go to /somewhere/nicepage.html". You won't be able to open that page, because you don't have the domain.

Searching for define:URL in G, also shows some good results.

dave741

8:34 pm on Jan 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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How is it with the AdWords itself?

I run campaigns for clients. May I use
adwords.example.com?

[edited by: eWhisper at 11:54 pm (utc) on Jan. 10, 2005]
[edit reason] Please don't hyperlink example URLs. [/edit]

patient2all

8:46 pm on Jan 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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If I tell you, "check out this site, go to /somewhere/nicepage.html". You won't be able to open that page, because you don't have the domain.

I will however land on your index page rather than get a 404. If the subdomain was inserted just to lend credibility to the site and landing on the home page had the potential to produce a sale, then mission accomplished for that unethical advertiser.

patient2all

PeteM

9:07 pm on Jan 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My understanding is that a URL consists of:-

sub.domain.tld

e.g.

amazon.myhumbledomain.com

I suspec that what Google really meant was that they would disallow duplicate domains.

robertskelton

1:26 am on Jan 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It is quite likely that the new AdWords rules will allow different subdomains of the same domain to appear.

Reasons:

- Google's search engine treats each subdomain as an individual site

- Many individual sites are subdomains of the same domain - for example blogspot.com

I expect that some smart affiliate programs will offer their affiliates their own subdomains, to get around the new ruling.

But I also expect that Google staff will try to stop this from happening...