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Legimate reason for two adwords accounts.

How should I proceed.

         

lgn1

9:00 pm on Sep 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

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We have several sucessful web properties, with differnt keywords for each web properties, so this has not been an issue in the past. We have drop ship arrangements with our suppliers, and we have always kept one website per supplier line.

However we have a highly niche etail web property that sells say product A. We lucked out on this one and we have no competitors for product A keywords, except for the usual untargeted ebay spam.

Since we are doing so well with product A, we are opening a new website selling the identical line of products (call it product B) from another supplier.

Since many customers swear by brand A or brand B. We expect a net increase in sales, rather than lose sales from one, for the gain of the other.

The problem, is now we are advertising the exact same keywords for both sites, when we want two spots, which will require either Adwords to give us permission, or create a second account.

The ethical method would be to inform Adwords, and seek permission to have both sites displayed for the same keywords. Since we have no competition, the logical answer is for them to say yes, but Im afraid they would say no.

The legal option, would be to setup another corporation, and since each corporation is a legal person in law, then this would resolve the duplicate account issue, however this would create addtional costs including a second set of financial records.

The unethical option, is to setup a duplicate account, and try to rationalize that we are not hurting anyone, since we control this niche market and we have no one to hurt, or to complain against us. The term it is easier to ask forgiveness, than permission ussually works with most companies, however I have heard that Google sometimes will suspend an account without giving a warning, or without recourse, so I am nervous about this option. I may end up paying even greater legal costs to rectify that problem.

Any suggestions about which direction I should take?

DiscoStu

10:26 pm on Sep 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I agree, G will prob say no to that since the ads will be advertising the exact same thing as I understand it (the diff is only who delivers it right)?

The unethical approach is the easiest, but with all the bans that are going around right now it's clear that it comes with some risk. Having said that, I know people who use multiple accounts advertising the same service on the same keywords and it's been working fine for them (they even use the same CC for the different accounts). However, I'd personally wouldn't sleep easy if those were my accounts. If the business is important to you, I'd go with option #2 (assuming the revenue is worth the headache for you)

coolfx35

1:10 pm on Oct 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

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good thing you asked, i did this last year, opening two accounted, now i have 0 accounts :( got banned.

bwnbwn

1:54 pm on Oct 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

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What you need to do and this will work is get with your Google Rep. (or contact adwords to get this done) and tell them you want to target the same keywords using the same account but different domains. A Google employee can then set the account to show one site 50% of the time and the other site 50% of the time.

I had this done for 4 sites targeting the same keywords and our rep set the each site to show 1 in 4 on the searches and it worked like a charm.

Doing this anyother way will be a very bad decision.

lgn1

3:36 pm on Oct 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the comments.

Showing each site 50% of the time is pointless, since site A and site B are not interlinked internally (this was part of a legal agreement with our suppliers). We are looking at doubling our exposure.

It's looks like we will need to setup a new incorporated company for the second website. Its a bit of a hassle, but it beats getting banned.

GetReal

3:43 pm on Oct 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I have different AdWord accounts for sites we run in different countries. For example, a US account, a Canadian account, etc.

Is this a violation? We do not overlap into any one region.

lgn1

4:05 pm on Oct 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

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GetReal, you don't need two accounts for what you are doing.

You can separate the Canadian from the USA using two separate geotarged campaigns, one campaign for Canada, and a different for the USA, all under the same account.

GetReal

4:16 pm on Oct 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Hi lgn1,
Yes I do realize that, but when we started the web sites years ago, each web site was set up with a seperate Google account. We've not taken the time, nor see a reason to merge the accounts.

GR