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SEMblahblah

12:01 pm on Jul 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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How would I know if my account has a dedicated account manager? How do I get in touch with him?

Writing to Google so far on most issues has been of no real help. I'm sick of the generic replies and the links that go along with it.

Can I somehow get a REAL person from Google to talk to? Where and how do I get a toll free no. from?

I don't get it! Atleast with the 'Chat support', I managed to get some assistance on basic issues..now we don't have that either!

AWA..looking for your help here. We're Google customers spending huge amounts of money on Adwords..I think its only fair to expect a better and more accessible Customer Support!

LucidSW

12:51 pm on Jul 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I don't think each account has a dedicated account manager. I believe you can ask for one but you must have a certain level of spend per month. I've never had or asked for one myself. I've had a few clients in the past who did and frankly, I was not impressed with what they did.

As for generic replies, Google is not there to build your campaigns for you. It's a self-serve system so the onus is on you to learn the system. They do provide online resources and there are forums such as this one, not to mention guys like me who manage accounts for others. So you won't get a real Google person holding you by the hand and telling you how to build your campaign or doing it for you. The phone and email support is for basic issues.

SEMblahblah

1:11 pm on Jul 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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"So you won't get a real Google person holding you by the hand and telling you how to build your campaign or doing it for you"

I'm not even asking for it!I am well verse with that!

"The phone and email support is for basic issues"

Which is exactly my point! What if the issues is beyond 'basic'?
Its not always possible to find your way around such issues easily. It could take ages and I would continue to lose out on business..not because I'm trying to game the system (moreover, I would not want Google to think that I'm trying to do so), not because I don't understand the Google policies, etc but simply because I might actually need Google to understand my issue and then help me to resolve it! And this would never be possible via the email option that we have because as you said..that is for 'very basic' issues.

James_WV

2:42 pm on Jul 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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What's your latest issue you wanted help with from Google?

netmeg

3:38 pm on Jul 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Its not always possible to find your way around such issues easily. It could take ages and I would continue to lose out on business..not because I'm trying to game the system (moreover, I would not want Google to think that I'm trying to do so), not because I don't understand the Google policies, etc but simply because I might actually need Google to understand my issue and then help me to resolve it! And this would never be possible via the email option that we have because as you said..that is for 'very basic' issues.

*I* don't have such a person either. And I spend a lot of money (on behalf of clients) every month too, plus I'm a GAP. And I've been very vocal about the diminished support options. All I can tell you is that if you have an issue, scream loud and long in every venue you can where you think someone might listen. And if you get the chance to cultivate someone inside Google, do it. It's not fair, and I don't think it's right, actually - but that's the reality.

James_WV

3:50 pm on Jul 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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We have 2 assigned to us (although obviously not all to ourselves, they have loads of other people to deal with).

I'm gonna have to disagree with Lucid here - I hardly ever ask them anything, like once a month maybe, but usually when I do their response is invaluable - they'll also help out with research etc in certain cases

SEMblahblah

4:21 pm on Jul 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I've posted about my current Account-specific issue very recently titled 'New Account - Poor Quality Scores'
[webmasterworld.com...]

Just to add to this,
We had created one new account a couple of weeks back which had the same credit card details and the company name as the old one. The keywords were down with poor quality scores. We assumed (rather, read up on different places, etc) that this could be because of the fact that we've used the same credit card info and the company name for both these accounts and that Google might consider this as double serving.
So, we went ahead and created another account which was like a couple of days back. The quality scores for this one are down too.

An important thing here is - both accounts(old one and the two new accounts) have ads directing to stand-alone landing pages and both these pages are very similar except for the fact that they have different domain names. The page for the older account is still in Google's index. So could Google be treating this as an issue of DUPLICATE CONTENT by any chance and hence the poor QS? We are now excluding those pages from Google's index through robots.txt. But I guess it would take around 2 weeks for Google to realize this change. Is it? And is it worth doing?

Bigger concern here is that Google does not ban our domain completely for these issues.

Which is why we are really looking for a Google Rep to give us more insights on this. All we want to do is move our campaigns to a new account (not by choice..we have to..we have to part away with an existing established brand in the process) and not appear as if we are double serving or trying to game the system.

What is the best way to go about it? And do you think we can continue to use the same domain?

eWhisper

5:34 pm on Jul 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Call Google and ask them. Or write to support and ask them if there's a manager assigned to this account or MCC.

Google account managers can be extremely useful in many situations.

Technically, managers are assigned on a 'needs' basis; and not on spend. There are huge accounts without reps, and much smaller ones with reps.

The need for a rep depends on what you are trying to accomplish, how complex your account is, etc. I've had accounts where we had standing check-ins with the team. On other accounts, we only used the reps for troubleshooting.

They can be an advocate for your account within Google; and in that aspect, they are invaluable.

netmeg

7:42 pm on Jul 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Also, if you are on twitter, sometimes @AdWordsProSarah can help on issues.

SEMblahblah

4:17 am on Jul 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Thanks guys!
I'm trying my best to get in touch with a Google Rep. Got some toll free nos. but it didn't help much (they just had a recorded thing going on there talking about emailing adwords, blah blah). A Google Rep should be the best person to guide us here..I don't want to further mess up the situation and then get the domain banned or something. Whats your take on this (generally)? Would the domain be still okay to continue with.
As for AdwordsProSarah, I think I'd be locate her on Adwords help forum..I'll try my luck...Would also give Twitter a shot.

Thanks all once again..any further help would be much appreciated ;)

SEMblahblah

8:08 am on Jul 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Can anyone elaborate on the duplicate content thing? I mean, the content new landing page is exactly same as the one we used in the old account. While we had paused the search campaign for the keywords that were activated in the new account, the content campaign in the old account has always been ON for those old landing pages. By any chance, would Google be treating this as duplicate content and hence the poor landing page quality? The landing page relevance, it says, is fine.
We are just moving to a new brand name, a new account - would we need fresh content on this page? Would a 301 redirect on the old landing pages help? I'm just speculating here while we're still trying our best to get in touch with a Google Rep.
Any thoughts?

LucidSW

1:20 pm on Jul 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

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> I'm trying my best to get in touch with a Google Rep.

Appears they are phasing out the phone support. Never used the chat support but that may be phased out too. You must use email.

FWIW, I think you will be OK with the duplicate content issue and not get penalized. Google doesn't care about duplicate content as far as PPC is concerned and I think it's a myth in the SEO world.

RhinoFish

1:30 pm on Jul 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

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i wish G had a an award for high AdSpend-to-SupportRequests or Months-to-SupportRequests ratios.

i hardly ever contact them.

they should give out their fridges for that. :-)

James_WV

2:15 pm on Jul 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

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SEM- you say a couple of posts up that "We had created one new account a couple of weeks back which had the same credit card details and the company name as the old one.", but in your other thread you say you used different credit card details?

Not sure on this but I think the duplicate accounts may be your big issue here - I'd get this sorted asap as essentially you've violated Google's TOS and they can ban your account for life - when they do this there's basically no recourse with them either - your accounts are shut down, full stop.