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Bidding rules

         

RockStar82

7:52 am on Apr 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone here use bid management? I think its the lazy man's helper but thinking about it did make me put together some systematic rules for campaign management. Feel free to share your own and share comments to mine.


-Great converting keywords and low CPL’s -> Own adgroup per keyword, budget for 100% sov and bidding for pos. 1
-Great converting keywords and medium CPL’s -> Own adgroup per keyword, budget for 100% SOV but bidding according to lead needs at that time/in that country (the whole quantity vs quality debate)
-Great converting keywords and high CPL’s -> Own adgroup per keyword, budget for 100% SOV but bidding for lower positions

-Converting keywords and low CPL’s -> up budget and bids for 100% SOV
-Converting keywords and medium CPL’s -> same budget but lower bids
-Converting keywords with high CPL’s -> minimum budget and minimum bids

-Non converting keywords with low cost and low positions -> Look at relevance, if relevant up bids for higher position in low budget campaign. If not relevant delete
-Non converting keywords with low cost and high positions -> Look at relevance, if relevant keep as is, if not relevant delete
-Non converting keywords with medium and high cost -> delete

Then all is left is setting objective standards for High, Medium and Low: impressions, positions, CPL’s, number of leads and budgets.

Ads texts are always set up as follows:

-2 per adgroup; both are similar except for one line
-Always make the ad - line 1: headline with keyword, line 2: benefit, line 3: offer/call to action
-Only keyword insertion on relevant long tail keywords
-After enough data has been collected (look at statistical significance) we decide on a winner ad, pause the other and make one additional ad (with again only one line changed). This is a continual process.

Bob535

3:37 pm on Apr 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Wow, that's a lot of ad groups.

I probably average 10-15 keywords per ad group.

I have to balance time spent managing vs revenue generated.

shorebreak

5:26 pm on Apr 17, 2009 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



IMHO what you're doing is somewhere between the math-driven science that it should be and a wild-a$$-guess.

If you're managing to a CPL, you should decide exactly what that CPL is and manage all your keywords to it with a system that aggregates, calculates and reacts quickly to cost & lead data, rather than inserting your own human - and therefore by definition calculation-constrained - consideration into the process.