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12:51 am on Mar 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

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SO far I've read Day Job Killer, Adword Miracles, & Affiliate Project X

Fun stuff, but I havnt made any money with them. A lot of their techniques are left a little bit vague.

Can you recommend a good book that dosnt just teach you how they sold their book to teach you how to sell another ebook (endless cycle)

Im an absolute beginner in adword marketing, but I have years of experience with web development.

Thanks.

7:21 am on Mar 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

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While there was a time when you could put up an ad, almost any ad and make money, those days are gone now (;-

Now it takes trial and error and testing, testing, testing... even then it can get frustrating.

As you suggest, the e-books are written for the purpose of selling e-books.

IMO, there are no worthwhile e-books or print books that will give any secrets away. Few people will write about exactly how they're making a killing in their Adwords niche.

A much better starting place for you would be to goto the "Advertising Sales and Affiliate Programs" forum at WebmasterWorld. Unlike a lot of other Affiliate Marketing forums you'll find on the 'net, WebmasterWorld rules keep it pretty "shill" free over there.

Read, read, read more and absorb, then start posing some questions there.

You have an advantage with a web development background. Now you have to learn how to sell. Without that subtle skill, Adwords is a dangerous place to leap into of late.

I know where you're coming from. Sounds like me some years ago.

I can give you one tip: The Adwords algo penalizes any site it perceives (rightly or wrongly) as being strictly an affilate site. Build a site that provides value-added content for visitors. The affiliate links should seem, well, like an afterthought - ;) - and worked into and around the content.

Good luck!

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people, not books, can help you most quickly navigate to known safe waters. imagine you were learning to sail, you should read some books, but more importantly, get to know others who sail and learn from them. don't take from them, give and take.

attend webmasterworld or affiliate summit and network with other affiliates. #*$! is a community i recommend for new affiliates, there's a lot of noise there, but there's also some real good people that will help you some, like this place as well, but there it's all affiliate subject matter. the first industry conference i attended was webmasterworld and the experience was worth many, many times it's cost. the sessions at these conferences are quite good, but the value of the networking is outstanding!

3:39 pm on Mar 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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There's a gazillion blogs out there for Aff Marketing; you should be able to find lots of reading. But there's a big difference between reading and doing.

I'm pretty new at it myself. Here's how I jumped in.

I didn't go looking for the highest paying offer or the latest fad or any of that.

I took a look at my life and the various systems I've developed for doing various things, and asked myself if there was anything I was doing that was relatively unique to *me* - maybe an uncommon way of performing a common task or need, and could I find a niche there?

Didn't take long, because I have several such. I took the one I thought had the most 'commercial' appeal and went to see if the vendor for one of the products I use for this had an affiliate program, and lo and behold - they did! Not only that, I found a vendor for some accessory products as well.

Then I built out the site on a WordPress format, adding my own personal experiences with this system, why I thought it was better than the 'standard' way of doing things, and I'm now in the process of making some videos to demonstrate it, and adding various other enhancements.

It's early yet, but I'm pretty sure it'll be a success, because I'm not just tossing up a product feed and relying on the thing to sell itself; I'm adding my own personal experiences, my own methods, video demonstrations, related stories, tips, etc etc.

It's also a pretty expandable topic, so if it takes off like I hope, there's a lot more I can add to it, including guest posts, new products, recommendations, reviews, the possibilities are pretty endless.

THAT kind of affiliate site has no problem doing well with AdWords (and in fact, I have no quality score issues at all so far) It brings more value than just the product offer, and that makes it a lot easier to deliver a quality user experience.

The world doesn't need more sites with outsourced content devoted to weight loss berries.

9:35 pm on Mar 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I recall reading parts of a book by Rosalind Gardner a year or two ago, which seemed to be solid advice based on experience over ten years. It wasn't a book about making ebooks.

The ebook regurgitating technique uses the following formula:

  1. Project an aura of success, including photo of a model in front of an expensive sports car, Photoshopped earnings from AdSense or Clickbank (get the fonts right)
  2. Collect adjectives to use in the marketing collateral, e.g. jaw-dropping, amazing, never-told-before etc
  3. Offer to share secrets with a limited number - "only x copies left"
  4. Write ebook and fill it with facts, but don't mention the year when the technique last worked, as this could be embarrassing.
  5. Write a smaller version that can be given away for free by "joint venture" gurus who have bigger mailing lists in exchange for email addresses to grow your own list.
  6. Buy PPC ads to get some sales and supplement with emails to anyone who signed up for the freebie.
  7. When sales dry up, promote the latest ebook written by a fellow guru and offer some incentive if people buy through your affiliate link, such as a regurgitated free ebook.
  8. Repeat this whole process as needed.

Clearly, the above is not something I recommend. There are many affiliate models involving building websites. Most of them involve original content, sometimes this is generated by the users, and they have a large amount of traffic. Once you have large traffic numbers, you can put up affiliate links.

If all you have is yourself and your labour, it will be hard but not impossible. Good luck.

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@anallawalla

That's funny. I do hate chain letter type, get rich quick, MLM, direct mail BS stuff. I say find a good product that you really can get behind and create a site or community.

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ReMuSoMeGa,
You won't like this answer but it's the truth. The only thing easy to do in affiliate marketing is give Google and other companies your money.

Be prepared to spend 2 to 5 hours per day (depending on how fast you read and learn), a minimum of 4 days a week, for at least two months to really know if this is something you want to become a profession at or if you want to peruse something else.

On top of that, you're going to have to spend your money and make mistakes and lose it, but you will learn in the process.

As an example, you will be competing against people like me. Here is my experience with adwords:
- 6 years, with 5 of them being full time account management
- I have watched / listend to almost every PPC course out there, none will tell you everything you need to know, but there are some really good ones.
- 1 hour dedicated for 4 days a week to advancing myself on Google.

I don't want to scare you, and I don't want to see someone take advantage of you by offering you a quick fix like some courses I have seen that just do a good job of parting you with your money.

The easier it seems, to harder you should hold on to your wallet.

3:24 am on Mar 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Thanks.

Im willing to dedicated time, money & effort to get good at this. So I guess all the real information I need to succeed I gotta figure out on my own huh?

[edited by: ReMuSoMeGa at 3:25 am (utc) on Mar. 25, 2009]

3:53 am on Mar 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I would like to corner some of you guys in a dark ally and just pick at your brains.

Anyone, PM me with your MSN/AIM I'd love to chat =]

4:19 am on Mar 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Some of it yes, you will have to figure out on your own and some you will learn from other people.

A lot of success comes from experience and learning from mistakes. Just like with anything.

 

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