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2 websites 1 keyword

but the same company

         

Rugles

2:31 pm on Jan 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

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We are about to launch a discount website to compete with our main ecommerce website.

The reason is that we are trying to compete with somebody else who has deep discounts on some of our better selling products. The new site will not have all the features of our main site and will not have things like phone support. It will be a completely different domain.

Can I run an Adwords campaign for both sites bidding for the same keyword?

The advertising policy on the Google site is very confusing and somewhat contradictory.

[edited by: Rugles at 2:37 pm (utc) on Jan. 18, 2008]

chinara

3:33 pm on Jan 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Basically, double serving is not allowed. But google seems not to care that much i see people do it all the time.

If your sites are considerably different you can call and ask for exception - i don't recommend it. It will take a while, plus they will most likely tell you NO.

How to do it?

1) Different domain. (you have that already)

2) Different Account - very important, if you put two domains in one account - adwords will only show 1 site per search query.

3) Make sure your ads are somewhat different. (you don't want to show two identical ads)

4) Use different credit card on a second account if you can. This step is not required, but preferred.

5) Don't link these accounts via MCC. Just a precaution.

6) Make as much money as you can!

7) Send me a thank you check.

Good luck

Rugles

3:49 pm on Jan 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

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why thanks,

i will let you know when we can cut your a check ;-)

wrgvt

5:20 pm on Jan 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

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If I remember correctly, there was someone complaining a while back that they were permanently banned from AdWords for doing something similar. Odds are Google won't catch you, but you run the risk of your competitor turning you in and suffering the consequences.

BDuns

5:32 pm on Jan 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I noticed one of our competitors doing the same thing - different ad title and display url, but the ad text and landing pages were the same.

I have a team of reps at Google that I can contact directly whenever I need help. I contacted them, told them about it (and included screen shots). A day later, I was told that it was taken care of.

I wasn't sure what "taken care of" meant, but I couldn't find the duplicate ads anymore.

I would bet anything that your experience would be different if you do not have a dedicated team at your disposal....they kinda HAVE to follow up on my stuff. If you're just calling the main number and getting a random cust. svc. rep, um....good luck :)

Philosopher

5:47 pm on Jan 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

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I've spoken with a google rep about this before.

If the two sites are different sites and different companies then yes you can do it. They should have substantial differences. I would think a discount shop compared to a regular would be sufficient (although that's my opinion).

A good way to do it in my opinion would be to get an LLC for the new site with it's own bank account, etc. use all it's info for signing up as that would legally be completely separate from the original site.

I wouldn't think you would have any problems. When I asked, I was basically told to open a new account and run the ads. If they deemed they were the same, i would be contacted.

Rugles

5:55 pm on Jan 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Like I said,

- different websites
- different level of service
- different pricing
- different shipping

Not sure why they would even care to tell you the truth.

(added)

of course it will be different text in the ad

[edited by: Rugles at 5:58 pm (utc) on Jan. 18, 2008]

smallcompany

5:59 pm on Jan 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

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Yes, there should be a different look into two sites that offer two different experiences versus two sites offering same experience.
The first one adds value to search results.
The second one is a way of getting two ads at the time.

If you look from organic search results side:

Two domain names with same content – one will be indexed and showing, another one unlikely, or maybe at the beginning until caught.

Two different sites – both will rank according to however search engines ranks them, no penalties.

In my opinion, you are free to go as long as you don’t get the two accounts associated – so you get two ads for same keyword query.