Forum Moderators: buckworks & skibum

Message Too Old, No Replies

Brand New Keywords- Bidding Strategies

How long does it take for the minimum bids to come down?

         

brianmcc

9:05 pm on Sep 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Like a lot of people posting recently, I don't change my adwords campaign much. I have essentially been bidding on the same set of keywords since 2002. It is important to mention that these are high cost keywords: on average I'm used to spending around $2-$4 per click.

But now I am launching a new site with new, lower cost products. This will also mean advertising on lower cost, higher volume keywords. In essence, I am looking to pay $0.15 to $0.25 per click. Now, I know this might be a very basic, newbie-ish question, but please bear with me. I'm noticing:

1) Initially Google let's me bid in my desired range of $0.15.
2) But after about 24 hours, they bump my "minimum bid" to $0.50 or higher.
3) I understand that over the course of time, as long as my ads perform well, the "minimum bid" SHOULD drop... hopefully it will eventually come down to my desired range.

So, MY QUESTION IS: How long does it usually take to see the "minimum bid" drop? Will I have to be paying this higher price for days, weeks, months? Are there strategies I can employ to speed up the process?

Again, I apologize for my rookie question.

bw3ttt

9:34 pm on Sep 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



What does it say in the quality score column? Also, is this a new campaign or just new ad groups?

brianmcc

9:49 pm on Sep 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



It says Good. There's mostly goods but a few poors. I understand that part. I'm just wondering how many days and weeks of improving quality scores will be required for it to "take" so to speak.

It's a new campaign.

bw3ttt

10:04 pm on Sep 21, 2007 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



No one can answer that but in my experience new campaigns settle down in a matter of weeks..

I'm have about 50,000 <foreign language> keywords in a campaign running in a <strong European country where no pig is safe from their chefs>, 1/3 are inactive, the others are between 0.02 - 0.05.. My max bid is 0.06.. When I add keywords there generally isn't any lag time for them to settle down so I think it is related to the campaign having a long history and not that they are new keywords..

If you're targeting the same country, just put the ad groups in the same campaign.. that "might" help..

AussieWebmaster

2:42 am on Sep 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



given a good QS the next factor will be the CTR.... lower that and you can drop your prices quickly

PPCHeroJohn

7:20 pm on Sep 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Brian,

I would agree with the others here that there isn't any specific period of time that you will need to "wait it out." The reason your keywords were given a higher minimum bid is due to Quality Score concerns.

The quickest way to decrease the minimum bids will be to follow some of the basic Quality Score "fixes" such as: write ad text that has your keyword(s) in the headline, body text or both - and check to make sure that your landing page includes your keywords as well. Doing those 2 things will be the fastest route to cheaper clicks.

Hope that helps!

JBrown

8:57 pm on Sep 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I'd clean things up a bit as well. Delete keywords with low quality scores if possible. Also, delete keywords with low CTRs. If you can increase the overall "healthiness" of ad groups and campaigns, that should speed up the process.

BDuns

9:09 pm on Sep 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I honestly think it's google finding another opportunity to stick it to ya.

short of new competitors entering the arena, your cpc shouldn't increase like that.

netmeg

9:40 pm on Sep 24, 2007 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



As I mentioned elsewhere, I tell new clients with new campaigns and new keywords not to expect things to settle down for at least a month.